Re: All Star voting

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>]

You get with the program. My point is if Pierce and Walker continue to throw
up shots without regard to team development the team will wind up in the
long run like last year. I agree they need to take the bulk of the offense
but many shots are street pick up game types. Between the two of them they
probably average 10 ill considered shots per game. This will work short
term, but it is an 82 game season.

Happy Holiday
DanF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh O." <igtcjosh@yahoo.com>
To: "Celtics Emai List" <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: All Star voting


> That is one of the dumbest things I've read here in a
> while.  How is Antoine "only a gunner" when he has the
> best assist and rebounding numbers of any power
> forward in the conference, nay, the league?  And if
> Pierce is only a gunner, I'd like to know how Ray
> Allen and Allan Iverson get the nod ahead of him.
>
> Get with the program!
>
> Josh
>
> --- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> > IMHO, this All Star stuff is a bunch of crap, and
> > I'd rather watch paint
> > dry. Maybe basketball competition is getting
> > diluted. Looking back, and
> > comparing, I don't see Pierce or Walker as All Stars
> > but a couple of gunners
> > (which we need at this point) who don't usually
> > incorporate the rest of the
> > team.
> >
> > DanF
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "j.hironaka" <j.hironaka@unesco.org>
> > To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > Cc: <Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:28 PM
> > Subject: All Star voting
> >
> >
> > > As others have probably noted, the ballot this
> > year is really working
> > > against Paul Pierce, the league's #2 scorer and
> > shooting .552 from Bird
> > land.
> > >
> > > It seems like there are three nominations for
> > "guard" (McGrady, Iverson
> > and
> > > MJ) who are locks to make the team for sure, so
> > Paul will have to settle
> > > for fourth by beating out not only Ray Allen
> > (who's coach will probably
> > run
> > > the team) but also Jalen Rose, hall of famer
> > Reggie Miller, Jerry
> > > Stackhouse and Dream Teamer Allan Houston.
> > >
> > > Let's say MVP Iverson gets listed as the second
> > point guard behind Jason
> > > Kidd... well even then you have Baron Davis (20ppg
> > on .548 shooting) and
> > > don't forget that Andre Miller is #1 in assists in
> > the NBA, and he's
> > > scoring over 18 per game. Pierce would be the 7th
> > guard in that scenario,
> > > assuming he beats out all the other big names.
> > >
> > > If Pierce gets left off, then its hard to imagine
> > the league choosing
> > > Antoine as the lone Celtics representative
> > (although he's putting up the
> > > best numbers at his position thus far).
> > >
> > > Yes, I know its way too early. But the ballots got
> > announced, so its in
> > the
> > > news.
> > >
> > > FWIW, seven "guards" makes sense because noone's a
> > lock at forward other
> > > than Vince Carter and Mutombo. Grant Hill's
> > numbers make him pretty
> > > deserving. Jermaine O'Neil and Glenn Robinson (or
> > Shareef) could fill out
> > > the 12-man roster, assuming Mourning/Camby/Ratliff
> > are injured.
> > >
> > > So maybe its wait until next year for Antoine,
> > unless he gets his FG% up
> > > and starts turning near triple doubles into real
> > triple doubles. If he
> > were
> > > shooting 45% he'd make it every year, the position
> > is so thin right now.
> > > But that's our Toine (and our system).
> > >
> > > If Boston isn't at .500 at the break, no Celtic
> > player deserves to go as
> > > far as I'm concerned. I guess I'm stating the
> > obvious for most people.
> > >
> > > ****
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