Re: [Celtic_Pride] Re: The Truth about Cats and Pitinos

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

I understand.

I think one reason why my way of looking at things differently is because of
my own coaching background.  I started off with 11-12 year olds.  My kids
liked to run so we were a fastbreak team.  One year after we won the
provincials (state tourney) a Mom who had never been to a game all year told
me "those kids sure made you look good.  I hope you are taking them to
McDonalds or something."

She gave no recognition to the fact that I probably spent more time with her
son over the course of a week, what with practices and games, than she did.

That's why I have empathy for what Pitino is going through.  He is trying
but he has people like that Mom in the stands, right behind him within
earshot, every home game.  It wouldn't surprise me entirely if this team
starts to play better on the road as a result, believe it or not.  Now I
know there is no evidence of such an ability...just call it a gut feeling.

Cecil






----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Kean" <simon@jkean.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <Celtic_Pride@egroups.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Celtic_Pride] Re: The Truth about Cats and Pitinos


> oops....that should read trying NOT to be hostile.
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Kean" <simon@jkean.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <Celtic_Pride@egroups.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Celtic_Pride] Re: The Truth about Cats and Pitinos
>
>
> > The may be the case, I'm trying to be hostile but I'm sick to death of
my
> > ball club being shitty. 8 years without a single playoff game is a long
> > time....you can't argue with that. Even the Clippers have qualified
within
> > that time.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > P.S. I'm a former State debating champion.....are you surprised :)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
> >
> >
> > > Simon, you're looking hard for a fight here.  I mentioned Cliff
Robinson
> > and
> > > Rodney Rogers because Mark's post mentioned Kidd and Marion only from
> the
> > > Suns.  Sheeesh!!
> > >
> > > Cecil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Simon Kean" <simon@jkean.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > To: <Celtic_Pride@egroups.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Celtic_Pride] Re: The Truth about Cats and Pitinos
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
> > > > To: <celtics@igtc.com>; "Celtic Lists (E-mail)"
> > <celtic_pride@egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:30 AM
> > > > Subject: [Celtic_Pride] Re: The Truth about Cats and Pitinos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Mark, you are right to a degree about teams winning based off the
> play
> > > of
> > > > > their star players.  But not always in the playoffs however.  That
> is
> > > when
> > > > > teams design their defenses to make someone else beat you rather
> than
> > > the
> > > > > stars.  Remember the old Sixers when they had Moses and the Doc?
> > Where
> > > > > would they have been without Andrew Toney or Bobby Jones or Mo
> Cheeks?
> > > Or
> > > > > the Pistons without Vinny Johnson or Rodman?  Or even the Bulls
> > without
> > > > > Paxson?  Or the Spurs without Elie?
> > > >
> > > > And the Celtics currently have how many players of the calibre of
> Moses
> > > and
> > > > the Doc? Isiah or Dantley? Jordan and Pippen? Granted great role
> players
> > > are
> > > > needed.....when you have star players to put them around. We don't
> even
> > > have
> > > > consistently good players
> > > >
> > > > > Imagine where the Suns would be without Cliff Robinson or Rodney
> > Rogers.
> > > >
> > > > Cliff Robinson has made about 5 more all-star teams than Antoine. I
> > guess
> > > > that makes him a role player too then...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure if you are old enough to relate to the old Celtic
> teams,
> > > but
> > > > > guys like Larry Siegfried rose to the occasion in the playoffs to
> save
> > > our
> > > > > bacon many times.  Don Chaney was probably invisible many times on
> the
> > > > > court, but he was especially invaluable in the playoffs with the
job
> > he
> > > > did
> > > > > on the opposition's best guard, allowing JoJo just enough freedom
to
> > > take
> > > > > chances which paid off more often than not.
> > > >
> > > > Granted I'm 26, and didn't have the pleasure of seeing the great C's
> > teams
> > > > of the past. I have to live via old videos and classic sports
> channels.
> > I
> > > am
> > > > barely old enough to remember the last time we won a championship,
and
> > to
> > > > know the league has changed significantly since then. To the worse
IMO
> > > too.
> > > >
> > > > > I do understand your point but it ain't always that simple.  If it
> > were,
> > > > the
> > > > > Spurs or Lakers wouldn't lose a game.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs and Lakers have won the last two championships.....the
> Celtics
> > > > haven't won close to 40 games either year. Maybe his point is that
> > simple?
> > > >
> > > > Simon
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