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Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
But it was a reality check. The Spurs are missing Elliot, they
had only beaten Philly by a point, there were questions about
their outside shooting, the C's had just beaten Indiana,
and had been playing well. Is it beyond reason to assume they
would have put forth a better effort and the Spurs wouldn't be
as effective? So, when the Spurs crushed the C's so thoroughly
it was a reality check. But you're Canadian so natuarally you
only grasp 60% of what I've said. Ha Ha Ha.
Ray
Cecil Wright wrote:
>
> This will be my last post to you on this subject since you are apparently in
> this to win an argument. I keep posting this stuff and you must keep
> ignoring it. This team is a relatively young team. It takes time to mold
> it into the unit that Pitino longs for. You either have patience and allow
> the process to take place or point out absolutely nothing useful to most
> followers of this list. Nobody needed to hear that there is a large gap
> between us and the Spurs. We all know that. It was not a reality check for
> anyone except maybe yourself since you expected "a more favorable showing".
>
> And the other comparisons are meaningless. That's why I mentioned what a
> horrible night Garnett had. It happens. Do you think that Wolves fans are
> saying that Rasheed is now a better forward than Garnett based from this one
> game? It takes consistency to be able to make that judgement. That's why
> scouts follow players and track their performance over the course of weeks
> and months. Not one game.
>
> AJ played well in the playoffs last year but can you tell me which Spur did
> not benefit from the duo's presence?
>
> Cecil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
>
> > Okay, the Spurs are a better team than the Celtics. So in reality, they
> > do outclass the Celtics. And that's just what I posted.
> >
> > This game does show us that the Celtics are far away from the Spurs
> > level. It was a reality check in that regard. The way the C's
> > were playing lately, I expected a more favorable showing against
> > the Spurs, especially after beating Indiana.
> >
> > As far as growing as we go. That's not a given. Is Antoine improving?
> > Vitaly? McCarty? Pervis? Kenny? Williams? What is is, in some cases.
> > Pierce will improve, and so may Griffin, but the learning curve
> > has run out on some of the players.
> >
> > AJ is overrated, greatly helped by Duncan and Robinson. Put him on
> > the C's and would he beat out Kenny?
> >
> > Is the Philly frontcourt of Ratliff, Hill and
> > and the guy from North Carolina an All-Star trio?
> > No, but they were tremendously more effective against
> > Duncan and Robinson than the C's frontcourt. Improve the
> > C's frontcourt and they can beat the Spurs. My point is that
> > the C's C/PF spots are so bad that it greatly hinders the C's
> > other quality players.
> > Ray
> >
> > Cecil Wright wrote:
> > >
> > > Because the Spurs are the best team in basketball right now until
> someone
> > > beats them in a series. We don't match up well with them and neither do
> > > most of the other teams in the league. They have cagey veterans to go
> along
> > > with the big duo like Elie and AJ. Don't forget how well AJ played last
> > > year in the playoffs. Very few turnovers.
> > >
> > > But the way you make it sound, players who can challenge the likes of
> Duncan
> > > and the Admiral, just plain fall out of trees and everyone cept us has
> some.
> > > That is not the case and we will have to grow as we go. You're cracking
> me
> > > up with this "this game shows us" stuff. As someone already mentioned,
> we
> > > knew this was gonna be a toughie anyway. Chalk it up as a learning
> > > experience at the hands of the Champs.
> > >
> > > I wonder how many fans used to chide their teams for not matching up
> well
> > > with our great Celtic teams of the past. I can hear it now; "we can
> beat em
> > > if we can get Wilt to score a little more".
> > >
> > > Cecil
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > > To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
> > >
> > > > What makes you think they would lose if they had better front
> > > > court players? Maybe you can't stop Duncan and Robinson, but there
> > > > are other frontcourts out there that certainly have the capability
> > > > to contain the Spurs duo much better than the C's can. And by
> containing
> > > > them, you allow your team to exploit the other Spurs players and
> > > > provide a much better chance at a win.
> > > > Ray
> > > >
> > > > Cecil Wright wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Garnett is shooting 4/17 tonight. He's human too. Grant Hill
> had
> > > a
> > > > > horrendous shooting display earlier in the year. You're mistaken
> about
> > > the
> > > > > degrees of capability thing. All that anyone cares about is whether
> the
> > > > > game was won or lost. Losing by less doesn't make me feel any
> better.
> > > The
> > > > > Spurs, as has been previously mentioned, will do this to many teams
> this
> > > > > year. We have a long way to go and I think everyone realizes that.
> But
> > > > > with hard work and dedication, things will improve.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we can get things together for the Bucks on Friday, we can be
> 8-5.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cecil
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > > To: Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>
> > > > > Cc: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but there's degrees of capability. The C's are currently
> > > > > > at the low end of the power forward/center spectrum, so when
> > > > > > they face a club like the Spurs, it's a KO. Other teams with
> better
> > > > > > frontcourt personnel are able to put up more of a fight.
> > > > > > Ray
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh Ozersky wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ray,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > every team in the NBA lacks the people to deal with
> > > > > > > Tim Duncan and David Robinson, two MVP-caliber
> > > > > > > centers. That's no knock on our guys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Whoah Nellie. Reality check type of game. C's really
> > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > an inside presence or two or three....
> > > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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