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Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
This will be my last post to you on this subject since you are apparently in
this to win an argument. I keep posting this stuff and you must keep
ignoring it. This team is a relatively young team. It takes time to mold
it into the unit that Pitino longs for. You either have patience and allow
the process to take place or point out absolutely nothing useful to most
followers of this list. Nobody needed to hear that there is a large gap
between us and the Spurs. We all know that. It was not a reality check for
anyone except maybe yourself since you expected "a more favorable showing".
And the other comparisons are meaningless. That's why I mentioned what a
horrible night Garnett had. It happens. Do you think that Wolves fans are
saying that Rasheed is now a better forward than Garnett based from this one
game? It takes consistency to be able to make that judgement. That's why
scouts follow players and track their performance over the course of weeks
and months. Not one game.
AJ played well in the playoffs last year but can you tell me which Spur did
not benefit from the duo's presence?
Cecil
----- Original Message -----
From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
> Okay, the Spurs are a better team than the Celtics. So in reality, they
> do outclass the Celtics. And that's just what I posted.
>
> This game does show us that the Celtics are far away from the Spurs
> level. It was a reality check in that regard. The way the C's
> were playing lately, I expected a more favorable showing against
> the Spurs, especially after beating Indiana.
>
> As far as growing as we go. That's not a given. Is Antoine improving?
> Vitaly? McCarty? Pervis? Kenny? Williams? What is is, in some cases.
> Pierce will improve, and so may Griffin, but the learning curve
> has run out on some of the players.
>
> AJ is overrated, greatly helped by Duncan and Robinson. Put him on
> the C's and would he beat out Kenny?
>
> Is the Philly frontcourt of Ratliff, Hill and
> and the guy from North Carolina an All-Star trio?
> No, but they were tremendously more effective against
> Duncan and Robinson than the C's frontcourt. Improve the
> C's frontcourt and they can beat the Spurs. My point is that
> the C's C/PF spots are so bad that it greatly hinders the C's
> other quality players.
> Ray
>
> Cecil Wright wrote:
> >
> > Because the Spurs are the best team in basketball right now until
someone
> > beats them in a series. We don't match up well with them and neither do
> > most of the other teams in the league. They have cagey veterans to go
along
> > with the big duo like Elie and AJ. Don't forget how well AJ played last
> > year in the playoffs. Very few turnovers.
> >
> > But the way you make it sound, players who can challenge the likes of
Duncan
> > and the Admiral, just plain fall out of trees and everyone cept us has
some.
> > That is not the case and we will have to grow as we go. You're cracking
me
> > up with this "this game shows us" stuff. As someone already mentioned,
we
> > knew this was gonna be a toughie anyway. Chalk it up as a learning
> > experience at the hands of the Champs.
> >
> > I wonder how many fans used to chide their teams for not matching up
well
> > with our great Celtic teams of the past. I can hear it now; "we can
beat em
> > if we can get Wilt to score a little more".
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
> >
> > > What makes you think they would lose if they had better front
> > > court players? Maybe you can't stop Duncan and Robinson, but there
> > > are other frontcourts out there that certainly have the capability
> > > to contain the Spurs duo much better than the C's can. And by
containing
> > > them, you allow your team to exploit the other Spurs players and
> > > provide a much better chance at a win.
> > > Ray
> > >
> > > Cecil Wright wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Garnett is shooting 4/17 tonight. He's human too. Grant Hill
had
> > a
> > > > horrendous shooting display earlier in the year. You're mistaken
about
> > the
> > > > degrees of capability thing. All that anyone cares about is whether
the
> > > > game was won or lost. Losing by less doesn't make me feel any
better.
> > The
> > > > Spurs, as has been previously mentioned, will do this to many teams
this
> > > > year. We have a long way to go and I think everyone realizes that.
But
> > > > with hard work and dedication, things will improve.
> > > >
> > > > If we can get things together for the Bucks on Friday, we can be
8-5.
> > > >
> > > > Cecil
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> > > > To: Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Spurs Are Really Outclassing The Celts
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, but there's degrees of capability. The C's are currently
> > > > > at the low end of the power forward/center spectrum, so when
> > > > > they face a club like the Spurs, it's a KO. Other teams with
better
> > > > > frontcourt personnel are able to put up more of a fight.
> > > > > Ray
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh Ozersky wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ray,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > every team in the NBA lacks the people to deal with
> > > > > > Tim Duncan and David Robinson, two MVP-caliber
> > > > > > centers. That's no knock on our guys.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Whoah Nellie. Reality check type of game. C's really
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > an inside presence or two or three....
> > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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