Re: Celts had another option

[Warwick Janetzki <giants@eisa.net.au>]

Hash, Troy wrote:
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> Warwick Janetzki wrote:
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> > Hash, Troy wrote:
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> > > Warwick Janetzki wrote:
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> > > > Hash, Troy wrote:
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> > > > > Warwick Janetzki wrote:
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> > > > > > I read this in an Australian basketball publication that just came out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Celtics had another option and chose to go with the Anderson one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Celtics would have gotten - LaPhonso Ellis, Bobby Jackson, Dean Garrett
> > > > > > and Johnny newman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Celtics would have given up - Chauncey Billups, Dee Brown, Roy Rogers,
> > > > > > John Thomas and 2 first rounders.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thing that the Celtics didn't want to do was the draft picks.
> > > > > > Reportedly the C's see them as being very valuable around draft time
> > > > > > especially if the ping pong balls fall their way they could end up
> > > > > > trading another cap person (Minor, Barros, Pervis, etc, etc.) with the
> > > > > > pick for a lower pick and someone with less of a cap problem who will
> > > > > > also help out the Celtics in a positive way filling a need.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whats your opinion on this...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which trade is better
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The one that happend or the one that never happend because of the draft
> > > > > > picks??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Warwick
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > MZ
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> > > > > That is a NO BRAINER!!!   Why in the world would we do the Denver
> > > > > deal??? Troy
> > > >
> > > > Because the Celtics would have a good lineup of
> > > >
> > > >  C- Garrett  DeClercq  Knight    Ellison
> > > > PF- Walker   McCarty   DeClercq  Ellis
> > > > SF- Ellis    McCarty   Newman    Minor    Jones
> > > > SG- Mercer   Bowen     Newman    Barros   Jackson  Minor
> > > > PG- Jackson  Barros    Edney
> > > >
> > > > Warwick
> > >
> > > My friend you must be smokin dope if you think THAT is a good line up.
> > > Only player worth having is Ellis and he is very injury prone and a free
> > > agent to boot!  Jackson not nearly as good as Billups with much less
> > > upside.  Newman?  You have to be kidding.  Garrett?  can't score on the
> > > worst team, worst front line in NBA.  Has giant contract, can't hold
> > > Declerq.  Only good thing about Garrett is shot blocks but not nearly
> > > worth this.  Come on Warwick if you really believe this was a good or
> > > better trade you have to be a NUGGETS fan.  Troy
> >
> > Look at it this way...
> >
> > Garrett's average is 2.25 mil a year.
> >
> > Newman and Ellis are free agents. Jackson has a way smaller contract
> > than Billups. I think its a bad trade, but I can see the advantages of
> > it.
> >
> > Think of it like this
> >
> > Brown for Garrett - good move cap wise
> > Billups for Jackson - good move cap wise
> > Newman + Ellis for Rogers + Thomas - good move cap wise / also skill
> > wise in that the Celtics recieve Ellis
> >
> > The first rounders is definitely what killed the deal.
> >
> > Newman and Ellis are free agents. Newman is an experienced player who
> > could give support. Take away those draft picks and I think that trade
> > is a steal because it gives the C's enough cap room to purchase someone
> > that they would like to get before re-signing Ellis to a good sized
> > contract.
> >
> > As for calling me a Denver Nuggets fan, did I say that I favoured the
> > Nuggets deal? No I didn't. I just have a more open view of the opposite
> > sides and advantages than some and could openly see the advantages of
> > the Nuggets deal.
> >
> > Am I happy with the Celtics deal for Anderson? Extremely. Ever since I
> > thought about it an hour after I first heard about it I was in complete
> > satisfaction of the deal and I could understand it totally. If you dont
> > believe me check out http://www.onhoops.com and read 'The Next Timmy
> > Hardaway' It's an article I wrote the day that trade was made about
> > Kenny Anderson.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Warwick
> 
> OK, I see your point about getting cap space, but still a lot to give up
> for cap space.  No offense ment.  Troy

Yeah I agree. Thats cool. Please read the article though :)

I think its all that for Ellis + Jackson + cap space, that sort of makes
sense, I still love the other trade more myself though. 

Warwick
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MZ