Re: Celts had another option

[Warwick Janetzki <giants@eisa.net.au>]

Hash, Troy wrote:
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> Warwick Janetzki wrote:
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> > Hash, Troy wrote:
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> > > Warwick Janetzki wrote:
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> > > > I read this in an Australian basketball publication that just came out.
> > > >
> > > > The Celtics had another option and chose to go with the Anderson one.
> > > >
> > > > Celtics would have gotten - LaPhonso Ellis, Bobby Jackson, Dean Garrett
> > > > and Johnny newman
> > > >
> > > > Celtics would have given up - Chauncey Billups, Dee Brown, Roy Rogers,
> > > > John Thomas and 2 first rounders.
> > > >
> > > > The thing that the Celtics didn't want to do was the draft picks.
> > > > Reportedly the C's see them as being very valuable around draft time
> > > > especially if the ping pong balls fall their way they could end up
> > > > trading another cap person (Minor, Barros, Pervis, etc, etc.) with the
> > > > pick for a lower pick and someone with less of a cap problem who will
> > > > also help out the Celtics in a positive way filling a need.
> > > >
> > > > Whats your opinion on this...
> > > >
> > > > Which trade is better
> > > >
> > > > The one that happend or the one that never happend because of the draft
> > > > picks??
> > > >
> > > > Warwick
> > > > --
> > > > MZ
> > >
> > > That is a NO BRAINER!!!   Why in the world would we do the Denver
> > > deal??? Troy
> >
> > Because the Celtics would have a good lineup of
> >
> >  C- Garrett  DeClercq  Knight    Ellison
> > PF- Walker   McCarty   DeClercq  Ellis
> > SF- Ellis    McCarty   Newman    Minor    Jones
> > SG- Mercer   Bowen     Newman    Barros   Jackson  Minor
> > PG- Jackson  Barros    Edney
> >
> > Warwick
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> My friend you must be smokin dope if you think THAT is a good line up.
> Only player worth having is Ellis and he is very injury prone and a free
> agent to boot!  Jackson not nearly as good as Billups with much less
> upside.  Newman?  You have to be kidding.  Garrett?  can't score on the
> worst team, worst front line in NBA.  Has giant contract, can't hold
> Declerq.  Only good thing about Garrett is shot blocks but not nearly
> worth this.  Come on Warwick if you really believe this was a good or
> better trade you have to be a NUGGETS fan.  Troy

Look at it this way... 

Garrett's average is 2.25 mil a year. 

Newman and Ellis are free agents. Jackson has a way smaller contract
than Billups. I think its a bad trade, but I can see the advantages of
it.

Think of it like this

Brown for Garrett - good move cap wise
Billups for Jackson - good move cap wise
Newman + Ellis for Rogers + Thomas - good move cap wise / also skill
wise in that the Celtics recieve Ellis

The first rounders is definitely what killed the deal.

Newman and Ellis are free agents. Newman is an experienced player who
could give support. Take away those draft picks and I think that trade
is a steal because it gives the C's enough cap room to purchase someone
that they would like to get before re-signing Ellis to a good sized
contract.

As for calling me a Denver Nuggets fan, did I say that I favoured the
Nuggets deal? No I didn't. I just have a more open view of the opposite
sides and advantages than some and could openly see the advantages of
the Nuggets deal.

Am I happy with the Celtics deal for Anderson? Extremely. Ever since I
thought about it an hour after I first heard about it I was in complete
satisfaction of the deal and I could understand it totally. If you dont
believe me check out http://www.onhoops.com and read 'The Next Timmy
Hardaway' It's an article I wrote the day that trade was made about
Kenny Anderson.

Cheers,

Warwick