Re: forgiveness

[AnEnglishBoy <campbell@fix.net>]

Kevin,

Obviously you are forgetting the post you made with, as I
remember it (I deleted the whole foul bunch) a subject
containing "fuck and asshole" in reference to AEB, me,
as well as suggesting in the body of the message that my
mother and sister had "fucked" Roger.

All this simply over my opinion about my preference for
the music and live performances of Pete vs. TheWho->
since 1976 and "TheWho->ByNumbers."

You have a lot of nerve, and that's not a compliment.

AnEnglishBoy~

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Sroundtable@aol.com wrote:

> AEB writes:
>
> > > There were a dozen posts when I name-called a few months ago, and I
> > > profusely apologized on and off list.  Where are the rest of you now?  You
> > > instructed me as to proper behavior on-list and I have abided by it.
> >
> > The above is the largest mouthload of bullshit I have read
> > from Kevin Mc in a month or so.
> >
> >
> Exactly what is bullshit about it?  I got mad at someone, I forgot who, in
> some
> debate over something I don't remember- and people went ape-shit and I
> apologized on list and off-list to the person I attacked.  Check the archives
> if you think it isn't true.  And since then, I ask you to cite one example of
> name-calling by me other than the retaliation to Jeff's entirely unprovoked
> attack.
>
> >
> > > What
> > > about Jeff?
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Why Not?
> >
> > That is what *you* -expect- of others when *you* trespass, time,
> > after time, after time, after time.
>
> How have I "trespassed" time after time.  For God's sake- twice is not time
> after time.  Bad joke about Beatles fans crashing the planes into the WTC (I
> apologized and have kept any jokes from being of an offensive nature) and the
> "fucking idiot" comment for which I also apologized sincerely.  I have
> name-called ONE GOD DAMN time and you want to characterize me by it?  I
> believe you have done your share of provoking others into conversations (and
> don't say just me). Is disagreeing with someone "trespassing"?  Why do people
> on this list get so upset when people have disagreements on issues.
>
> > > I hope
> > > Jeff comes back.  I've forgiven him.
> > >
> >
> > This reeks of insincerity, IMO.
> >
> > The point is not whether you have forgiven, but whether *you*
> > have been forgiven.
> >
> > AnEnglishBoy~
>
> No insincerity.  I have forgiven Jeff for turning an issue debate on brokers
> into a personal attack on me with no provocation.  He kept stating that my
> points were devoid of facts and logic and that he didn't "understand" them
> (he was being sarcastic), so I made a few posts of a mildly sarcastic nature
> simply explaining the points clearer.  Do I need to re-post what he said to
> defend myself?  I attempted to move the issue off-list to avoid name-calling,
> simply asking Jeff why, after he and I had never had a prior conflict of this
> nature, he would call me "stupid and ignorant."  He then aired this off-list
> discussion on list and re-stated his insults.  I have no problem with insults
> and would be happy to go back and forth with jeff- but I was roundly ripped
> by many on here for doing that and have not done that again, aside from my
> retaliation for jeff's posts.  All of you made it VERY clear that this type
> of thing was not supposed to be present here.  I have shown in the past that
> I am willing to own up to my mistakes and apologize when I am wrong, but I'm
> not going to take personal attacks from others lying down.  And still, no one
> has stated exactly how I was wrong in this situation.  AEB, how would you
> react if Jeff had behaved this way toward you in regard to an issue debate?
> You'd come back firing with both barrells- and I dare say you would not have
> been as patient as I was.  Jeff should come back.  His emotions have clouded
> his judgement.  I enjoy his posts like everyone else, but to punish the
> subscribers to this list because I insulted him is pretty rash.
>
> Kevin Mc