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RE: correction

> Kemp was whining about deals long after Bob left town.  The
> concerns Kemp had were with Wally Walker's administration.  I
> laugh at the idea that Bob Whitsett was anything more than a GM
> that signed and gave Kemp his first contract extension.  It akin
> to blaming ML for something that RP might promise this year, when
> in reality ML was already out of the picture.  Wally signed Jim
> Mc and he would have been the one talking with Kemp.

I wasn't blaming Whitsett. Kemp had an understanding with Whitsett and when
Walker came in for Whitsett, Walker signed Mcilvaine breaching Whitsett's
agreement with Kemp. Kemp was mad a Walker, not Whitsett.

> Dudley's deals with the
> Blazers were public at the time, which caused the league to have
> such a hissy fit, and lose in NY. In the case of Chapman the
> league has no problem with someone signing 3 minimum deals to get
> to the LB exemption.  This is the basis of the whole CBA
> agreement.  Chapman and the Suns have not secrets.

But they're still implied contracts and that supports the precedent I cited.

> Cliff held out just like Kemp, both due to horrid advice from
> their agents and the fact that both "men"  are pathetic examples
> of professional NBA players and human beings.

Holding out for money makes one a pathetic human being? Does that make all
capitalists intent on getting their "market value" or "maximising profits"
pathetic human beings as well? If so you've just indicted the majority of
the world.

>They both are the
> pure definition of what is wrong with the current NBA and over
> the top player deals and attitudes.

It's just the attitude capitalism fosters. If players start playing for the
love of the game and not for money that problem will go away. Until we
revert to communism, socialism, anarchy etc... players, and everyone else,
will continue to try to get as much money as they can. You can't condemn
basketball players just for being like the rest of society.

> Kemp proved his true value
> to any NBA team by wanting all the cap room for himself and not
> once concerning himself for the good of the team, not unlike
> Kevin Garnett.

Welcome to the world of social Darwinism. Now the NBA reflects the rest of
society, with few "haves" presiding over the "have-nots".

>All his plausible playoff heroics aside, he is a
> grade F team player and no team with him as a star or otherwise
> will ever win an NBA crown.  You can book it.

Seattle came awfully close a few years ago against Chicago. Kemp's only 28,
he has a long way to go yet.

> Lastly you criticize Baker's playoff performance, this was his
> first year to have ever played a playoff game, and he had one
> huge game against the Lakers, I don't remember which.

Offensively, Baker's more than competant, but defensively he will never
equal Kemp. He just doesn't have the body.

>He will
> eventually show his value in the big games, with a PG like
> Peyton. BTW Shaq and his boys killed the Sonics not Baker.

Yeah, but Baker didn't show Kemp's never say die attitude in the playoffs
either. I never liked Kemp until the NBA finals against chicago three
seasons back. From then on Kemp has always been amazing in the playoffs.