Re: Re: It Will Be A Great Off-Season For Ainge If

["Josh Ozersky" <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Ray,

I want hold up before annointing Sebastian Telfair as another Isiah
Thomas.  There have been approximately 900 high-scoring, highly-touted
high school PGs over the last few years, and rare is the one that overcomes
his size even to the extent of playing in college, let alone the pros.  PGs
under six feet who have flourished in the NBA can be counted on the
fingers of one maimed hand.  Nor would I be in any hurry to trade a talent
like Ricky Davis for an aging reserve who basically duplicates Jiri Welsch.
Brent Barry might be a nice pickup, but he's still what he is:  a talented
but
less than passionate player who is happy to be on the periphery of a good
team, and who's next big defensive play will be his first.  Let's give Ricky
(and Hunter and Kendrick and Mihm) a real coach and see what happens.

As for the draft, I think at this stage we need a finished product with a
lot
of heart; I'm not in love with these spindly weak 4s; they need time to
develop,
and the ball in their hands a lot.  And even at their best, as with Gasol,
they get pushed around by real 4s and tend to play matador defense.  Give
me a Malik Rose out of this draft and I'll be happy; unless we can somehow
get a Ben Wallace.

Josh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: re: Re: It Will Be A Great Off-Season For Ainge If


> > A couple of problems here.  First, why trade for Barry if you could just
sign
> > him? Davis is already at the MLE salary level so Barry would have to be
also.
> > But I assume you are saving the MLE for Nocioni.
>
> There ya go.
>
>  But then again you assuming
> > Barry also will sign for the MLE level. Why wouldn't he go somewhere
else and
> > pick the MLE from them?
>
> Well, it doesn't have to be Davis alone. It's just the idea of trading for
Barry,
> rather than using the MLE on him.
>
>  Also, why do you think Danny could ink Nocioni instead
> > of any other team?
>
> I'll give you $5.1 million reasons why.
>
>  What is the link between the Cs and Nocioni? If Nocioni is
> > that good and things were able to work that way, it sounds like a decent
> > plan. However, we aren't going to use first pick for a point guard....
> >
>
> I don't know if there's a link, I do know, he has a chance to be a
terrific player in the
> NBA and probably one of the best free agents available in terms of talent
for price.
>
> Franchise PG: Always worth a trade up.
> Ray
>
> > DJessen33
> >
> > << - He signs the Argentinian/Italian Vince Carter-like SF Andre Nocioni
as a
> > free agent.
> >
> >  A Star could be born in the NBA, if Ainge can ink Nocioni, a great
athlete
> >  who can score, rebound, and pass from the small forward position
> >  and shoots the 3-ball at 40 percent.
> >
> >  - Trades Ricky Davis for Brent Barry.
> >
> >  Right! With the Star-to-be Nocioni, Pierce, and Jiri, there's no need
> >  for Ricky Davis, so you can ship him off to Seattle for Barry in a
> > sign-and-trade.
> >
> >  Barry - Pierce - Nocioni - LaFrentz - Mihm ~ Not bad at all!
> >
> >  - Maneuvers the Celtics into position to draft the Isiah-like Sebastian
> > Telfair and
> >  a PF type such as Chris Taft, Uros Slokar, LaMarcus Aldridge, Randolph
> > Morris,
> >  etc.
> >
> >  Ye gods, exactly. Telfair has that Isiah PG-Magic to him. He's sneaky
evil
> >  and a pure PG, who if it weren't for the destructive Atkins trade, the
> > Celtics
> >  would be in perfect position to draft him. Instead, now they're going
to
> > have
> >  to trade up.
> >
> >  They can nab a lanky  PF prospect with their second or third
first-rounder:
> >  Slokar - Morris - Turiaf - Torrin Francis (though his offense is very
raw),
> >  Dusan Sakota, Varejao, or Al Jefferson, who's not lanky but a great
> >  scorer/rebounder.
> >
> >  Ray >>
>
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