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Re: Beagle thoughts on the trade



The complete sentence--which you quoted--read: "For all that I'm sure he's a nice person, he seems to
be big on discipline."


The meaning is simply that while he's a pleasant enough person, there's an undercurrent of "my way or the highway" to his actions since he took his new job. He's always been opinionated, and he's now in a position where he gets to be right because he's the boss. Danny's in an unusual situation here, in that the owners actually admit they're not well-versed in Basketball beyond being fans. Danny can hit them over the head with "I'm right because I know what I'm doing." whilst telling Obie and the team, "I'm right because I say so."

One thing I'm curious about is what the coach's reaction was to all this--and if he even had any idea of what was going down before it happened. Or, for that matter, if Walker himself did.

I'd like to think that there was at least a face to face between Ainge and Walker to try to sort things out.

At 01:31 PM 10/20/03 -0400, Dan Forant wrote:

Snoop, could you elaborate on "For all that I'm sure he's (Ainge) is a nice
person" Does he have a record (not basketball) or something?

DanF

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From: "Snoopy the Celtics Beagle" <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: Beagle thoughts on the trade


> I have some opinions on the reasons for the trade, most of which center > around Danny Ainge. For all that I'm sure he's a nice person, he seems to > be big on discipline. Walker, for all his talent, is something of a free > thinker, and doesn't hesitate to say what's on his mind, even if it happens > to be to a reporter. > > On the positive side for Walker, just the other night, I saw evidence of > his dynamic passing and his ability to go to the basket. Negatively, he > also still had a tendency to overcontrol the offense, a job that is no > longer his. > > When you add his recent comments stating that basically he didn't think a > running game would really happen, Ainge needed to shake his > complacency--and that of anyone else who thought Ainge was kidding about > running. > > Thus, Ainge could no longer sit and hope Walker would "buy into" the > running game. The trade had to happen now. Also, in an interview with > Tommy Heinsohn, he did make clear he wanted to do at least one more deal > for a guard before the season started. > > I don't know enough about the former Dallas players to know if they're the > players Boston needs, either now or long term. I do think that Ainge felt > the trade needed to happen NOW, to make the point that the running game was > hear to stay, and everybody better get with the program. This thinking is > of a kind with the trade that got Jumaine Jones to Boston, when someone > else unwisely decided to test the waters for better offers. > > I'll be among the first to admit Walker had some trouble with the > change. But to be fair, the C's were asking him to change his game > completely, and in very little time. I think if this had been started last > season, and emphasized through the summer, things would have been much > different. > > I think the C's lose a bit, because for his faults, Walker is a > tremendously talented basketball player, capable of drawing the defense > away from Pierce. Most teams only have one "star player". The C's had > two. It seems to me that Ainge is gambling that Baker will, in fact, step > up, and the rest of the team will run hard, fast, and smart enough to ease > the defensive pressure off Pierce. > > As to Tony Delk, I liked what he could do, but I guess he wasn't doing > enough of it. As some have mentioned, it will de-murkify the rotation > somewhat. > > I also believe Danny was sending a message to O'Brien. Walker wasn't > getting with the program and he's gone. If I traded him, I'll trade > anyone, including you. So put those runners in. > > But this could easily backfire, creating bad morale among players that > liked Antoine and valued his leadership, wondering if Ainge is chasing the > championship ghosts of the 80's rather than creating a new championship > team today. > > It's an all-or-nothing play for Ainge, and he's betting the house that he > can win without Walker. Remind me not to play poker with Danny. :>) > > Snoopy the Celtics Beagle > Please visit the <http://www.celticsbeagle.net/>Celtics Beagle Website