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RE: Chauncey vs Marcus

At 07:18 PM 11/4/2003, Ryan W wrote: 
Good point, Kim.  I'm assuming that you're assuming
that Mike James is not this type of player (that is,
the veteran player capable of teaching Marcus by
repeatedly burning him in practice)...

Actually not what I believe I originally said (a post before the one this was in reply to). Not a veteran player in general, a specific type - a crafty veteran classic PG, since those are the skills we want the accellerated learning on.

yet don't you
think he gets by (that is, if you think he is getting
by--I do, btw) on his veteran savvy as opposed to any
sort of physical attributes?

Well no, I think it's a mix and heavier on skills/hustle, but also see above about why he doesn't fit the role regardless. He's another crossover guard with PG skills, not a classic pure PG. Better PG, probably not as good a pure shooter as Delk, but similar type.

 As such, it seems a safe
assumption that when James is beating Banks in
practice (he must be, since James is starting over
Banks),

Nope, don't agree with this either. Banks could be beating him one on one but James gets the start because he gives us the best chance to win and issues with his own development don't interfer as much with the other development issues on the court. That last is one that gets ignored too many times in discussion over who is and isn't getting PT and why.

 he is already providing the "learning by
failure" model you propose below.

Not the intensive training one on a particular skillset I had originally proposed. While he's also young and athletic enough that that could be seen by the student as a significant factor in his getting beaten vs the difference in pure PG skills, blurring the intended lesson about how important they are.

Look, maybe this will help make what I'm talking about clear. I'm female. I'm about 5'10" and have been since about 6th grade. I grew up playing hoops, as tall as or taller than most of the boys (small town with limited gene pool <g>), playing a lot of inside banger post game. Which do you think would make a bigger impression about the importance of things like boxing out - getting beaten by another slightly less athletic but more experienced guy or by *horrors* a girl with really good technique who played smart with more tenacity than grace? That's why my original post said I wish they had a crafty veteran PG he would see as past his prime or someone who never was as athletic to beat him purely as a PG and school him on how it's done in practice.

Kim