RE: [Celtics' Stuff Payton will be looking for a ring

["James A. Hill" <jahill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Agenda?  Nonsense.  Just because you like Walker doesn't mean everyone else
does.  I like his "heart" but don't like his game.  Sure there is a few
teams where Walker would be an upgrade at PF such as NO, Toronto, Bucks, LA.
But not Chicago.  Think any of the them would take Walker @ $12M-$14M per
year?

However the question on the table was trading Walker to Chicago.  Do you
really think Chicago is going to bench Chandler?  Do you think they will
limit Chandler's minutes to "6" after his draft position? Take away the
money consideration and do you think Chicago would even trade Chandler for
Walker straight up?  Three all star games not withstanding, of course.

Hence my comment:  "Heck, checking reality would be a good start."  Chicago
has no need for Walker and where you see a three time all star in Walker I
see the future of the NBA in 6'11"-7' PF's like Gasol, Nowitski, Brown and
Chandler (who may soon be an all star himself) and wouldn't be giving up
playing time if Walker was traded to Chicago.

I think that it is someone other then me with the agenda.

<Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Giovanello [mailto:sgiovanello@norwoodlight.com]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:33 AM
To: James A. Hill; Celtics (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff Payton will be looking for a ring


You can also phrase that as a three time all-star, power forward who can
beat you off the dribble, help run the offense due to his ball-handling and
passing skills, and brings a whole lot of leadership to a team.  Most teams,
I would imagine, see Walker for what he is...an fairly unique player (by NBA
standards) who brings a hell of a lot more to the table than he takes off.

One of the problems on this list is that many of the posters look to score
cheap points and/or either denigrate/praise everything about the Cs.  It
really hampers the discourse when many people on here have an agenda and are
sticking to it.  I have been on here for a while and it seems to intelligent
basketball talk is almost drowned out by the drivel.  I truly wish there was
a basketball version of the Sons of Sam Horn...
----- Original Message -----
From: "James A. Hill" <jahill@leasingservice.com>
To: "Celtics (E-mail)" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Celtics' Stuff Payton will be looking for a ring


> Heck, checking reality would be a good start.  Why would Chicago even want
> Walker?  You need a team that needs an undersized, leaping challenged,
> outside playing, max contract PF to consider a trade with.  Chicago
"ain't"
> one of them.  Not sure who is.
>
> <Jim
>
>
> >You guys really should check RealGM before proposing trades.  These
> salaries don't add up.
> >And before anyone says "cap crap", to balance this Walker deal, even
> without Delk, would require the addition of Eddie >Robinson or Donyell
> Marshall.
>
> >>On Sat, 24 May 2003 22:13:30 -0700 John Lyell  wrote:
> ><I was thinking a Walker and say Delk for Williams , Fizer or Robinson,
and
> >>Hassell would work.