Re: Thank you!

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well, in defense of the refs in this game. The early calls were against NJ
and had several in foul trouble in the 1st half. We couldn't profit from
that. The NJ bench is deep.

I never filter your posts Cecil. I regard them as informative and well
written. I don't filter any Celtic posts. The Pioneer posters that want to
trade up and those that like the present status quo eventually meld into a
middle ground somewhere.

DanF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: Thank you!


> Precisely.  Here's a baseball comparison.  The Red Sox list has fans ready
> to trade Nomar because he makes too many errors.  You know...if they said
it
> because he was terribly injury prone, perhaps...but name a shortstop who
> doesn't make errors?  Not to mention that he has won tons of games with
his
> offense.  It is not something which happens only on this list.  But in
that
> analogy, what is the alternative to Nomar?  Well there really isn't one,
> though they have a guy in the minors who in his first full year of playing
> short, he is hitting the ball well.  That's all it takes for the fans to
> consider dumping a player who has given his all to the organization.
>
> I just would love to see Celtic fans able to support the team without
being
> relegated to persona-non-grata status.  But I have come to realize that
this
> is simply not the case unless one decides to skip certain posters.  Sad
but
> true.  I feel quite strongly that some filter my posts because I am too
> "pollyanna" but I just cannot get into the spirit of blasting the team
> because they have weaknesses.  Every team has them.  Hell, we lose Battie
> and Walker to fouls tonight and still were in position to win the damn
game.
>
> One thing I find ironic is that some have no problem with the referees,
yet
> have a problem with our team, as if we have been catching breaks from the
> refs all year or something.  Someone (Kestas?) even suggested that
> Stoudemire didn't foul Pierce and the refs had it correct.  Even Ainge,
who
> is no friend of this edition of the C's hinted tonight that all the
players
> wanted was consistency, meaning that there was very little of it.
Thompson
> went even further in stating that one of the calls on Walker was much less
> than some of the other contact which had been taking place.  In my
opinion,
> there is no room for the ticky-tack call, however if it affects the
shooter,
> it must be called.  No player, Jordan included has earned the right to
> scream in a ref's face with no penalty when others get teed up for looking
> at the guy with a smirk on his face.  Are you telling me that David Stern
> and Stu Jackson support these refs and reward them for such decisions?
>
> I am not saying that the refs cost us the game tonight, but I do think
they
> have not done us any favors this year or last year for that matter either.
> But you gotta suck it up and deal with it.  Certainly, this is one of
> Walker's biggest weakness.  And it will plague us until he learns to shut
> the hell up, toss the ball to the nearest official and run down the court.
>
> Cecil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Douglas342@AOL.com>
> To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Thank you!
>
>
> > I'll chime in with Dan here to an extent.  Perhaps the difference that
> anoys
> > some is the difference between, "Antoine shouldn't shoot as many 3s, and
> we
> > need a center" versus "This team sucks."  Maybe I have no trouble with
> people
> > pointing out the team's weaknesses, but not with conclusory statements
> like,
> > "They stink.  OB stinks."  But if you want to point out Antoine's 3 pt %
> as a
> > contributing factor the the team's mediocrity, who's to argue?
> >
> > a message dated 5/5/2003 8:41:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > dforant1@nycap.rr.com writes:
> >
> > > Don't leave the list. Stand your ground if that's what you believe in.

> If
> > > certain posters annoy you with another opinion, don't read our posts
or
> > > filter.
> > >
> > > DanF
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Art Silva" <vzd1s1hb@verizon.net>
> > > To: "Celts" <celtics@igtc.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> > > >I agree with Dorine and  David. I've been on this list for almost 10
> years
> > > >now and just recently I've started thinking about leaving. Even
during
> our
> > > >worst seasons we didn't have so many people constatly crying and
> whining
> > > >about someone or something about the Celts. And you might disguise it
> as
> > > >being dissatisfied with the current team but I seem to think that
> > > regardless
> > > >of what team was out there some of you would find something to
complain
> > > >about anyway.
> > > >
> > > >Art