Re: different look at the trades

[Sean Giovanello <sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well, tweak it a lil for salary and you have this:

Antoine - Raef

Eric - Ricky

Kedrick - Jiri

Delk -  Mihm

Battie - Stewart

Bremer - Jones

Mark Piotrowski wrote:

> I know they don't shake out this way but if you take the 3 trades of 
> the Ainge Era apart (and ignore salaries since collectively they 
> match) would you do any single piece in reverse talent wise?
>
> Antoine Walker --> Ricky Davis
>
> Eric Williams --> Jiri Welsch
>
> Tony Delk --> Raef Lafrentz
>
> Tony Battie --> Chris Mihm
>
> J.R. Bremer --> Jumaine Jones
>
> Kedrick Brown --> Michael Stewart
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> 1.  Walker (18.2 pts, 10 reb, 4.7 asst, 44.8 fg%, .87 stl, 3.2 to) --> 
> R. Davis (15.3 pts, 5.5 reb, 5.0 asst, 43.1 fg%, 1.1 stl, 3.0 to):  I 
> was surprised to see that Davis averages nearly as many points and 
> more assists as Walker.  Almost as surprised as I was that he shoots a 
> lower percentage.  I see no reason Davis can't account for 90% of 
> Antoine's production over the last 3 years (not his production this 
> year -- when he appears to be playing for a contract (shades of 
> Clemens in his final years with the Red Sox?))
>
> 2.  Williams (11 ppg, 4.5 reb, 1.2 ast, 1 stl) --> Welsch (6.2 ppg, 
> 2.6 reb, 2.1 asst, 1.1 stl):  While Williams' numbers are slightly 
> better you could easily argue that the Team as a whole performs better 
> with Welsch in there providing the glue.
>
> 3.  Delk (7.5 ppg, 2.7 reb, .9 asst) --> LaFrentz (7.8 ppg, 4.6 reb, 
> 1.4 asst):  Even fighting through a knee injury LaFrentz has better 
> numbers than Delk (who's also been knicked up).  If you flip-flop 
> Welsch and LaFrentz its an even closer match in both cases.
>
> 4.  Battie (5.9 ppg, 5.1 reb, .87 blk) --> Mihm (6.9 ppg, 6.4 reb, 1.0 
> blk):  Mihm is performing better even in 4 fewer minutes.  Both have 
> battled injuries over the past few years, but Mihm seems to be over 
> them -- whereas Battie, sadly, may never be.
>
> 5.  Bremer (4.2 ppg, 1.2 reb, 1.2 asst) --> J. Jones (2.5 ppg, 1.5 
> reb, .6 asst):  Bremer is playing 6 more minutes a game, while Jones 
> ahs been struggling with injury.  This is the only one I'd have to 
> think about -- however I think Bremer has maxed out as a player 
> talent-wise, while Jones is still getting better.
>
> 6.  K. Brown (5.3 ppg, 3.2 reb, 1.2 asst) --> Stewart (1.0 ppg, 2.3 
> reb, 1 blk):  Not much to say here other than Kedrick shouldn't have 
> been taking as many minutes from Welsch so losing him frees Welsch up 
> to play more.  I wish Kedrick well.  Also, did you know that while 
> playing 81 games (21 min/gm) as a rookie, Yogi averaged 2.4 blocks a 
> game!?!  Or that at the same height he weighs 50 pounds less than 
> Kendrick?
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Age-wise Davis, Welsch, LaFrentz and Mihm are all considerably younger 
> than the players they replaced, while Jones and Bremer are nearly the 
> same age.
>
> Contract-wise Davis' is much better than even the best extension we 
> could have gotten from Walker; we've got Welsch locked up for 3 years 
> on a rookie-scale deal vs. Williams' expiring contract (i prefer the 
> Welsch contract); LaFrentz is much "worse" than Delk's (longer 5 vs 2 
> years at 2-3 times the money); Mihm's deal runs a year shorter than 
> Battie's; Bremer's a FA this summer, while Jones has 2 years at low 
> money; Stewart makes 3x what Brown does but is a FA next summer -- 
> which means he's likely to be traded again either this summer or next 
> year to a team looking to clear space.
>
> All in all I guess my point is that unlike the (esp. 1st year of) the 
> Baker-Kenny trade or many of the Pitino deals, we're getting better, 
> younger players at equal contracts.
>
> - (the other) mark