Re: Obie ... stubborn passive-aggressive?

["Lance Jacobson" <lancejacob@xxxxxxxxx>]

Good post, Eggy.  I'm less concerned with what we see of Obie's game
planning right now because he's a thoughtful guy and knows what he needs
from the captains, and also knows that for Baker to succeed here (Vin's
desperate to fit in) he'll follow the coach's direction.  It's just too
early to see how the guys play together to decide on their fate.

I couldn't IMAGINE a war between Obie and Wallace, though.  Obie's had to be
empathetic to Gaston's unwillingness to pay for players, but he's never
accept the Baker trade if he couldn't count on Vin's attitude to be solid.
The thought of a mgt conflict is too much to consider, with all the other
problems the team has.

There are no plays for Baker because he wants things from Baker and he has
to show the captains that Vin is a slave to the "system" that PP and Twan
have in place.  I just want to see more effort to rebound from VB and expect
that the Nets will be our toughest foe and they have the least adaptation to
make.  Rodney for Keith doesn't exactly throw their offense out of whack.
Neither does Deke for Todd.  WE'RE the team that's changing more and it's
expected to take time to sort out.  When the dust settles, we'll probably be
closer to the Nets than we were last year.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Eggcentric@AOL.com>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: Obie ... stubborn passive-aggressive?


> If veracity is the heart of morality, I have seen little of it
> incorporated into our recent games.
>
> I guess I just donbt understand the ultimate purpose of exhibition
> games.  I once naively thought that their final score was secondary
> to experimenting with new defensive and offensive schemes,
> various lineups, judging new players, and basically separating
> the wheat from the chaff.  But where have any of these purposes been
> evident in our first three games?  More specifically, where is our
> offense, where is our defense, where is our team chemistry, and
> why is Baker still being positioned at the arc while being deprived
> of integration with our starting players?
>
> Damn if I can figure out what Obie is up to.  I despised Pitino
> and all that he stood for. But really, passive-aggressive Obie is
> maybe more threatening because he is just as stubborn and
> threateningly more subtle.
>
> Examples of his OBstinateness post Kenny and present Baker-
>
>     b In our system, the key thing for our point guards is
>     perimeter shooting. It's really more important to us than
>     playmaking.b
>
>     AND
>
>     b We donbt have any plays for Vin right nowb,
>
> leave me adrift.  If I knew my boss had sacrificed our future for one
> large question mark, I would certainly do everything I could to feature
> said question mark, i.e., Baker.
>
> Are Wallace and Obie on the same wave length?  I think not.  Word
> is that Obie never approved of the Anderson/Baker trade... that he
> preferred the known Anderson and Rogers to the unknown Baker and
> Shammond at half of our future cap/luxury tax penalty.
>
> So my question is -  that in creating zilch plays for Baker and
> refusing to blend his talents into the starting lineup, is Obie
> sending a message to Wallace?  More to the point, is the proud
> Obie now more obsessed with high maintenance BAKER FAILING
> then he is on WINNING GAMES?
>
> The Dyspeptic Egg