Re: Plenty of blood, plenty of fouls.

["Orion" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Portland needs a major overhaul and if they don't go far expect some more
house cleaning.

Would you make a Kedrick Brown, Joe Forte  and Vitaly Potapenko trade for
Dale Davis and The big kid from Michigan state whose name I can't remember
(Shows how much he has played)


I like Marc Jackson but would give up an expiring contract unless it is
Mcleod's and would offer VP or Battie. They need backup to Dampier & Foyle.

Unfortunately we are backing to trying to figure out where antoine Walker
fits. Last year they thought the 3 and brought in Fortson to play the 4  but
that did not work out. I see how much of a bull he is on the inside and
still wonder why to this day.


If GS wants and expiring contract and wants Anderson, would your move KA
along with Battie and Johnson & Forte or a draft pick  for Jackson and
Hughes and maybe Sura? It is not like the chemistry is working for them with
the current staff. Jamison and Richardson will be their nucleus.

Jackson
Walker
Pierce
Sura
Hughes

GS

Dampier/Battie
Fortson
Jamison/Johnson
Richardson
Anderson

An upgrade at all positions IMO

John





----- Original Message -----
From: "JB" <jbmetzea@yahoo.com>
To: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>; "Celtic's Stuff"
<Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com>; "Celtics @ igtc.com" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: Plenty of blood, plenty of fouls.


> on 1/5/02 8:56 AM, Dan Forant at dforant1@nycap.rr.com wrote:
>
>        JB;
> The situation is futile this season because we have no one to trade. We
> won't give up either Walker nor Pierce. Walker and Pierce have to come
ready
> to play every nite and someone else has to step up also. Don't look for KA
> on a regular basis, or anyone else as a matter of fact.
>
> DanF
>         *********
>    By futile, I presume you mean, acquiring another, inside player,
without
> having to give up one of ours, or by extension, not being able to compete
> with the big, bruising teams.
>    We won't win the championship, no doubt, but just because we were
bullied
> last night by Miami, I'm not going to concede the season as being
"futile,"
> nor even give up on the fantasy of acquiring the player, or two, that
would
> get us out of the East and at least, the date with the Lakers.
>    There is talk that Marc Jackson of Golden State could be had for an
> expiring contract and a draft pick.
>    There was also talk, on draft night, that Portland was the team we
> drafted Kedrick Brown for. If that is true, or at least there is still
> interest in Portland (that ship is sinking fast), how many of our expiring
> contracts and Kedrick, would it take to get Dale Davis? Let's ask "Real
GM:"
>
>        ********
> Portland trades:     Dale Davis    $7,010,000    to Boston
>
> Portland trades:     Erick Barkley    $765,600    to Boston
>
> TOTAL:         $7,775,600
> Boston trades:     Kedrick Brown    $1,528,440    to Portland
>
> Boston trades:     Walter McCarty    $3,125,000    to Portland
>
> Boston trades:     Roshown McLeod    $1,509,001    to Portland
>
> Boston trades:     Milt Palacio    $690,000    to Portland
>
> TOTAL:         $6,852,441
>
>
> TRADE ACCEPTED
>
> Due to Portland and Boston being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is
> invoked. Portland and Boston had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of
> the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here.
> This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining
Agreement.
>
> Portland would also receive a trade exception of $923,159 with this trade.
> This would have to be used within one calendar year from the date of this
> trade.
>
> Be aware that this exception will be extinguished if the team which
> possesses it falls below the cap by the combined amount of the exceptions
it
> currently possesses.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     This would be a miracle move. I know, we are all intoxicated with
> Kedrick Brown, but as I see it, Joe Johnson is the better all around
player,
> to play with Walker and Pierce and with Paul and Eric Williams in tow, we
> really will never have much time for Brown. We are taking a risk, yes;
like
> Philadelphia when it traded Stackhouse or Hughes, but less of one,
because,
> truth be told, Kedrick has shown little more to date, than Moiso did. Will
> he always be a "human highlight film" or will he blossom into the nest
> McGrady? I'd take that shot, to get a Dale Davis, who is only 28-29, I
> believe.
>    I threw in, Eric Barkley/ Milt Palacio, because I am shrill and
insistent
> that we get a back up point guard.
>    The trade also gives up three roster players for two, so we can get Joe
> Forte, who I think can be useful, now, as he is a poised, basketball savvy
> player, off the DL. This also opens a roster spot, in case we need it,
later
> in the season, as Wallace was trying to tell us, was the reason he didn't
> sign Khalid El-Amin, this summer (then went out and signed Herren
anyway-God
> forbid they take on a point guard, who can actually pass and run, at the
> same time).
>    Besides strengthening us at our two weakest positions, this trade may
> also catch a light in Jimmy O'Brien's eye, to use some more flexible
> lineups. Why not a big unit with Walker at the three, to combat the
Miami's
> and Utah's of the league? A two point guard tandem, against pressing,
> trapping defenses? A quick unit, to run the floor against older and less
> mobile teams?
>    By balancing the roster and sending off some of our useless baggage,
> there may be a lot of things we can do, against the different looks we
will
> get, from the better teams, with the better coaches, as we get into the
> playoffs.
>    Go C's.
>
>               JB
>
>
>
>
>                            Unchain My Heart!