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Re: Plenty of blood, plenty of fouls.
I've never seen Hughes play point guard. I've read
good things, but I'm skeptical, that he could co-exist
with Walker and Pierce, or that he has the requisite
mentality. I have seen Sura play the point and he is
only a bit of an upgrade over Eric Strickland. Nuff
said? I'd be unwilling to trade Anderson without a
real upgrade, as a distributor.
I'd also be reluctant to trade Vitaly or Battie, to
get Dale Davis, but if you are talking about Zach
Randolph, I'd listen to the details.
I do not want to trade Joe Johnson. For my money, he
has too many skills. Remember how old he is before you
give up on him for some reticence and tentative play.
JB
--- Orion <johnlyell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Portland needs a major overhaul and if they don't go
> far expect some more
> house cleaning.
>
> Would you make a Kedrick Brown, Joe Forte and
> Vitaly Potapenko trade for
> Dale Davis and The big kid from Michigan state whose
> name I can't remember
> (Shows how much he has played)
>
>
> I like Marc Jackson but would give up an expiring
> contract unless it is
> Mcleod's and would offer VP or Battie. They need
> backup to Dampier & Foyle.
>
> Unfortunately we are backing to trying to figure out
> where antoine Walker
> fits. Last year they thought the 3 and brought in
> Fortson to play the 4 but
> that did not work out. I see how much of a bull he
> is on the inside and
> still wonder why to this day.
>
>
> If GS wants and expiring contract and wants
> Anderson, would your move KA
> along with Battie and Johnson & Forte or a draft
> pick for Jackson and
> Hughes and maybe Sura? It is not like the chemistry
> is working for them with
> the current staff. Jamison and Richardson will be
> their nucleus.
>
> Jackson
> Walker
> Pierce
> Sura
> Hughes
>
> GS
>
> Dampier/Battie
> Fortson
> Jamison/Johnson
> Richardson
> Anderson
>
> An upgrade at all positions IMO
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JB" <jbmetzea@yahoo.com>
> To: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>; "Celtic's
> Stuff"
> <Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com>; "Celtics @
> igtc.com" <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Plenty of blood, plenty of fouls.
>
>
> > on 1/5/02 8:56 AM, Dan Forant at
> dforant1@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > JB;
> > The situation is futile this season because we
> have no one to trade. We
> > won't give up either Walker nor Pierce. Walker and
> Pierce have to come
> ready
> > to play every nite and someone else has to step up
> also. Don't look for KA
> > on a regular basis, or anyone else as a matter of
> fact.
> >
> > DanF
> > *********
> > By futile, I presume you mean, acquiring
> another, inside player,
> without
> > having to give up one of ours, or by extension,
> not being able to compete
> > with the big, bruising teams.
> > We won't win the championship, no doubt, but
> just because we were
> bullied
> > last night by Miami, I'm not going to concede the
> season as being
> "futile,"
> > nor even give up on the fantasy of acquiring the
> player, or two, that
> would
> > get us out of the East and at least, the date with
> the Lakers.
> > There is talk that Marc Jackson of Golden State
> could be had for an
> > expiring contract and a draft pick.
> > There was also talk, on draft night, that
> Portland was the team we
> > drafted Kedrick Brown for. If that is true, or at
> least there is still
> > interest in Portland (that ship is sinking fast),
> how many of our expiring
> > contracts and Kedrick, would it take to get Dale
> Davis? Let's ask "Real
> GM:"
> >
> > ********
> > Portland trades: Dale Davis $7,010,000
> to Boston
> >
> > Portland trades: Erick Barkley $765,600
> to Boston
> >
> > TOTAL: $7,775,600
> > Boston trades: Kedrick Brown $1,528,440
> to Portland
> >
> > Boston trades: Walter McCarty $3,125,000
> to Portland
> >
> > Boston trades: Roshown McLeod $1,509,001
> to Portland
> >
> > Boston trades: Milt Palacio $690,000 to
> Portland
> >
> > TOTAL: $6,852,441
> >
> >
> > TRADE ACCEPTED
> >
> > Due to Portland and Boston being over the cap, the
> 15% trade rule is
> > invoked. Portland and Boston had to be no more
> than 115% plus $100,000 of
> > the salary given out for the trade to be accepted,
> which did happen here.
> > This trade satisfies the provisions of the
> Collective Bargaining
> Agreement.
> >
> > Portland would also receive a trade exception of
> $923,159 with this trade.
> > This would have to be used within one calendar
> year from the date of this
> > trade.
> >
> > Be aware that this exception will be extinguished
> if the team which
> > possesses it falls below the cap by the combined
> amount of the exceptions
> it
> > currently possesses.
> >
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This would be a miracle move. I know, we are
> all intoxicated with
> > Kedrick Brown, but as I see it, Joe Johnson is the
> better all around
> player,
> > to play with Walker and Pierce and with Paul and
> Eric Williams in tow, we
> > really will never have much time for Brown. We are
> taking a risk, yes;
> like
> > Philadelphia when it traded Stackhouse or Hughes,
> but less of one,
> because,
> > truth be told, Kedrick has shown little more to
> date, than Moiso did. Will
> > he always be a "human highlight film" or will he
> blossom into the nest
> > McGrady? I'd take that shot, to get a Dale Davis,
> who is only 28-29, I
> > believe.
> > I threw in, Eric Barkley/ Milt Palacio, because
> I am shrill and
> insistent
> > that we get a back up point guard.
> > The trade also gives up three roster players
> for two, so we can get Joe
> > Forte, who I think can be useful, now, as he is a
> poised, basketball savvy
> > player, off the DL. This also opens a roster spot,
> in case we need it,
> later
> > in the season, as Wallace was trying to tell us,
> was the reason he didn't
> > sign Khalid El-Amin, this summer (then went out
> and signed Herren
> anyway-God
> > forbid they take on a point guard, who can
> actually pass and run, at the
> > same time).
> > Besides strengthening us at our two weakest
> positions, this trade may
> > also catch a light in Jimmy O'Brien's eye, to use
> some more flexible
> > lineups. Why not a big unit with Walker at the
> three, to combat the
> Miami's
> > and Utah's of the league? A two point guard
> tandem, against pressing,
> > trapping defenses? A quick unit, to run the floor
> against older and less
> > mobile teams?
> > By balancing the roster and sending off some of
> our useless baggage,
> > there may be a lot of things we can do, against
> the different looks we
> will
> > get, from the better teams, with the better
> coaches, as we get into the
> > playoffs.
> > Go C's.
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unchain My Heart!
=====
JB Unchain My Heart!
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