Re: The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest V9 #416

[Cecil <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest V9 #416


> IMO,
>
> Shammond is no match for KA, not even close.

You're right.  Williams is a better shooter, defender and rebounder.  Nice
contribution Kenny has made to Seattle huh?

>
> The Baker trade is and was a disaster.

We'll see.  But based purely on team contributions, we are clearly the
winner thus far.  Financially......

>
> Potts contributed much more than the Faker.
>

So did Bill Russell...but he ain't playing this year either.

> Baker has some genius talent? Yes, stealing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
>

Why do you blame a player for agreeing to a contract proposed by an owner?

> This team will never be Championship quality with this group.
>

On that theme, you have been consistent.

> Kedrick has no clue therefore not getting playing time.
>

This one too.

> OB wants wins, yes, amazing huh??
>

I thought that was his job...that is to win.  An NBA coach has no time to
build for the future...not if he wants to be employed next year with the
same team.

> Trade Kedrick for an established player? That would be the equivalent to
the
> Manhattan purchase from the Indians.
>
> DanF
>
> Wallace sucks.

So in your learned opinion, where will this team end up?

Cecil





> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GuyClinch@AOL.com>
> To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:54 AM
> Subject: Re: The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest V9 #416
>
>
> > > And to Boston, what did we really give up for Baker in
> > > the first place? Hardly anything, if you already consider
> > > Shammond for Kenny a wash for the Celtics system. It
> > > wasn't a bad trade, personnel wise.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Personnel wise it was a fine trade....
> >
> > I would still favour Kenny over Shammond..but Shammond isn't that bad,
> plus
> > he is a couple of years younger. Baker is definetly better then
> > Potapenko..who had no real inside game, and couldn't really catch. Baker
> has
> > some genuine talent even if he doesn't put up numbers. He can catch for
> > starters.
> >
> > It does hurt us cap flexibility wise alot.. So for that reason its a bad
> > trade.
> >
> > Beyond that I think Wallace is doing fine. He didn't draft
perfectly...but
> I
> > think that it only takes one or two hits in the draft to fix his image
> there.
> >
> >
> > Truth is I think that both Baker and the much maligned Kedrick could
> easily
> > be showcased if the team was out of contention. Both of these guys could
> put
> > up good stats if OB wanted them too. What OB wants though is wins.
> >
> > I think actually Papile is pretty good at finding undrafted NBA
talent...
> > The guy knows alot about younger players and I think is a real hoops
guy..
> > I like him.
> >
> > OB is a very good coach as well..
> > Only problem I have with him is that I don't think he cares about player
> > development.
> > With the Celts playing so well I imagine they will trade our picks this
> > year..and maybe even Kedrick for a established roleplayer. Since I love
> young
> > players I hate that..
> >
> > But the Celtics are just interested in winning games..
> > I don't think they have championship intentions.
> >
> > Pete