Re: Here We Go Again

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Has Webber mentioned he wouldn't come to Boston?  Yes is probably a
longshot, but it is doable. It gets Webber in the East with a team with some
young talent. Maybe it would be a challenge to him to help them return to
their once dominant status?.

As far as Walker's trade value, again I have never said he doesn't have any,
and if Juwon Howard and his $20M a year salary can be traded, anyone can.
But it doesn't happen if you simply sit on the pot. There is always some GM
who feels it is worth taking the risk. Was Tyson Chandler worth giving up
Elton Brand? Were the 3 picks Jersey got worth Eddie Griffin? John Wallace &
Beuchler worth Cliff Robinson? Pau Gasol worth Rahim ?  A lot of speculation
on the part of GM's that these moves will improve their team. Its a
crapshoot.

 Like Marbury I feel Walker has not shown he understands the concept of
being a team player. I am hoping if he stays this offseason will have helped
him. With him we haven't won 40 games in recent years.







----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Wang" <awang@MIT.EDU>
To: "John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>; "Michael Gooen"
<callmebogie@yahoo.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Here We Go Again


> At 01:48 AM 6/30/01, John Lyell wrote:
> >I think many would make this move in a second to give us some inside game
> >Walker has not shown he can consistently provide.  You seem to bit too
> >enamored in keeping Antoine for some reason I am not sure when he has not
> >shown he has improved the team any. While other teams make moves of
overpaid
> >underperfomers to improve we stand pat and ride him until he's a Vin
Baker
> >or Kenny Anderson.Maybe you don't want your collection of Walker dolls
and
> >jersey's to be worthless.
> >
> >
> >As far as Webber's free agent status I guess you have also never heard of
a
> >sign and trade deal either.
>
> I agree with the original sentiment by Michael Gooen, which you clearly
> don't understand. Michael isn't saying that he wouldn't applaud this trade
> if it happened. I think the vast majority of people on the list would
agree
> that Webber is a better talent than Walker, coming off a near MVP season.
> His point is that you're proposing yet another pipe dream trade. For a
sign
> and trade to work, the free agent has to agree to the deal. Webber has to
> say, "I want to come to Boston." Webber has publicly speculated about
quite
> a few teams that he might be interested in playing for, and he hasn't
> mentioned Boston once.
>
> I actually don't have a serious problem about the original post suggesting
> Walker for Webber. I think it might have been the final straw for Michael,
> after listening to months of repeated suggestions to trade Walker. The
> weird thing is that you obviously think he's an overpaid underperformer
who
> doesn't help his team, jacks up way too many 3's, doesn't play defense,
> etc., and yet you evidently think he has tons of trade value around the
> league too. It's just not consistent, unless you think you see something
> that the GMs in the league just can't comprehend.
>
> Alex
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Gooen" <callmebogie@yahoo.com>
> >To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 2:33 AM
> >Subject: Here We Go Again
> >
> > > John Lyell's grand design:
> > >
> > > <<Would Walker for Webber be more feasible now? From who will
Sacramento
> > > get more value?>>
> > >
> > > It never ends, does it?  Never mind the fact that Webber's a free
agent,
> > > he's coming off a 50+ win season in Sacramento and that he's never
shown
> > > the slightest interest in coming to Boston.
>
>
>