Re: Antoine's game vs. Minnesota

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

See, it's not only lossess where the critics can find something to chirp
about.  Peter May.  Yeah big deal if you like anything he writes.  Isn't he
the guy who criticized the Sox for signing Ramirez?

We come up with a win on the road where we were tied entering the 4th
quarter against a decent team.  We win the game but listen to this: "Toine
had an ugly-triple double.  He had at least 10 lucky assists only cuz Pierce
knocked down the shots and he had a bunch of rebounds anyone coulda got."

Nobody mentions the assists he has lost out on because of dropped passes or
teammates missing easy shots over the course of the season.  Why is that?
But let him have bad nights and he is branded as selfish because of some
alleged remarks made regarding number of touches which have thus far been
unsubstantiated.

Cecil




----- Original Message -----
From: "Sampath, Venkatesh" <Venkatesh.Sampath@microcell.ca>
To: "'Cecil Wright'" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: Antoine's game vs. Minnesota


> Ah, well, there's Peter May's comment as well about this being an "ugly
triple-double." I can remember the Walker of old who would have come away
with just the 6-for-26 shooting and no assists or rebounds (what? wasn't
Danny Forston or Forstron or Forloon(!) brought in by Pitino just to do
that) to speak of. Is it a sign that he is maturing? Certainly hope so.
However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him fade away a little over the next
couple of games - specially against Sacramento.
>
> All said and done, the Celtics are winning games because of Walker and
Pierce. There's been an occasional contribution from Stith and/or Brown. I
certainly hope that Mark Blount gets the playing time he deserves - while we
let old Vitaly go to Pot (pun intended).
>
> I think the wild yo-yoing is likely to continue - with the Celtics winning
unexpectedly at times and getting blown out at other times. This will change
only if Walker and Pierce decide to show up every night and they get some
support from the rest of the team. That's not going to happen until their
process of maturing is complete.
>
> venkat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil Wright [mailto:cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca]
> Sent: 16 January 2001 04:54
> To: celtics@igtc.com; Rohan Prashad
> Subject: Re: Antoine's game vs. Minnesota
>
>
> I guess Pierce would be happy to see Toine go, especially after praising
> Toine for getting him the ball where he likes it.  You just cannot please
> some of you.  The guy's grandmother is in serious condition and you are
> ripping him for his performance when, if the situation was reversed, you
> probably wouldn't even be at work.  SHEESH!!
>
> Cecil
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rohan Prashad" <rprasha@CLEMSON.EDU>
> To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:36 PM
> Subject: Antoine's game vs. Minnesota
>
>
> > I don't think Antoine deserves much credit for this game despite the
fact
> > that he had a triple double. If there is such a thing as having a "poor
> > triple double" this was it. Sure, he was tired from flying in from
Chicago
> > that morning, but then he shouldn't have been shooting as much,
especially
> > when he saw he wasn't hitting. When he was 1-11 at the half that should
> > have been his cue to start rotating the ball when kicked out to him, or
> > probably well before that point. He shot better in the second half, if
> 5-15
> > (33%) can be considered an improvement. (Those stats may be a little
off)
> >
> > He shot eight 3-pointers and made one. That is inexcusable, and that
kind
> > of stat also is beginning to become more and more of a trend. He had 12
> > assists which is good, but that may be more a testament to Pierce's
> ability
> > and great night than Antoine's passing. The ball movement appeared to be
> > better when Antoine wasn't in the game with Blount, Williams, and Brown
> all
> > getting open looks and knocking them down.
> >
> > I will give him credit for passing the ball down the stretch to Pierce
> > instead of shooting, and rebounding the ball well down the stretch as
> well.
> > But, if we had lost the game, people would be blaming Antoine and
> > rightfully so. He had five turnovers, double figure bad shots, took too
> > many 3's, and still doesn't trust his teammates (besides Pierce). If
> > anything this game was more evidence to trade Antoine, not reason to
keep
> him.
> >
>