RE: Celts tanking

[Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>]

Wow, to say this is a required game to win for the playoffs at least
mathematically is wrong. Even I believe the Celts are doomed, but just not
so early in the season. Just 5 games? 20-25 games into the season will have
the season ticket owners antsy. The scaffolding for the hangman's noose is
being built game by game for the great coach. The rope will be ready by mid
season and a plea bargain will be offered to the great coach.

Dan

At 09:31 PM 11/10/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I guess Brown's injury accounted for 38 minutes to Brunson.  I guess most of
>this list should be careful what they wish for - the Kenny Bashers will
>realize just how decent Kenny is regardless of his shortcomings (like that
>one guy keeps saying Kenny isn't the reason we don't make the playoffs), it
>is defense in the low post and perhaps Pitino's system just isn't working or
>its square pegs in round holes - whatever.   We lost to the Knicks at home
>w/o Spreewell.  This is a game the Celtics are almost required to win if
>they have any chance at the playoffs.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
>> Michael Griffin
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 8:36 PM
>> To: Jaime S Castillo, Jr.; owner-celtics@igtc.com; celtics@igtc.com
>> Subject: RE: Celts tanking
>>
>>
>> The Celts will not win many games if Stith plays 41 minutes and
>> only shoots
>> 4 times.  This is too reminiscent of Cheaney.  Granted, there are people
>> that have been specialists in other facets of the game (Michael Cooper on
>> defense) but they don't play 41 minutes or, if they do, their numbers are
>> better.  Not blaming that on Stith but you can't have that many
>> minutes with
>> that little production.  What else?  Pierce needs to focus at the stripe.
>> He should be an 85% ft shooter - instead it looks like he and Walker have
>> traded places at the stripe.   Did VP start tonight?  That might
>> explain why
>> Battie's points and rebounds were down.  Perhaps he sulked not being in
>> there at the beginning.  If he did start, then we have to pray
>> this was the
>> "off night" and not a return to last year.
>>
>> Also, I supported drafting Moiso but not so he can log DNPs.  I noticed
>> Alexander from Dallas has already had a 20 point game.  I know, I know,
>> three years out (i.e.  Nowitzki) but you gotta give the kid some playing
>> time.
>>
>> I'm surprise by the rotations based on minutes played.  Why does Carr only
>> play 1 minute and Griffin 15?  Do the Celtics really need Brunson
>> to play 38
>> minutes?
>>
>> You can chalk up tomorrow as a loss with Walker and Pierce logging so many
>> minutes tonight and Herren being baptized by fire courtesy Mr. Iverson.
>>
>> I'm expecting a loss of at least 15 points tomorrow.  Hope for the best
>> expect the worst.
>>
>> I'm still holding out hope for the season but I hope we're not seeing a
>> replay of last year's quick start only to fade quickly.  This team can
>> definitely compete in this conference.  I haven't seen a dominant
>> team yet.
>>
>> I do think people picked on Kenny a little too much and he is our 3rd best
>> offensive option - period and exclamation point but that doesn't
>> matter now,
>> he's out til New Years.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
>> > Jaime S Castillo, Jr.
>> > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:02 PM
>> > To: owner-celtics@igtc.com; celtics@igtc.com
>> > Subject: Re: Celts tanking
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, now W starting to get it.  I've been saying that it's a
>> > hopeless season because Pitino doesn't really have a clue on how
>> > to win with this group.  He wants a saviour right away but
>> > wouldn't get it definitely.
>> >
>> >
>> > owner-celtics@igtc.com wrote:
>> >
>> > >Rick Pitino is sounding desperate. Obviously distressed with watching
>> > >                  Randy Brown, who provides no offense whatsoever and
>> > >missed all eight
>> > >                  of his shots the other day, he's going to start Rick
>> > >Brunson and Chris
>> > >                  Herren at the point the next two games.
>> Sorry, Celtics
>> > >fans, but it sounds
>> > >                  to us like Pitino's tanking it.
>> > >
>> > >My thoughts: If we can get Eddy Curry its Lakers Vs Celtics.
>> If we dont,
>> > >well then kiss goodbye to Rick Pitino. Its that simple.
>> > >
>> > >W
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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