Trades

[kevin lok <kevin.lok@lycosmail.com>]

> From: opi@unesco.org
> Subject: Re: Trades
>
> In fairness, Alex envisions a trade that also lands a top three draft pick
> (any Clipper first round pick amounts to just that) plus the 6-5 Derek
> Anderson (a 16.5 ppg player who has had a triple double this year and shoots
> a better percentage from the floor and the free throw line than Pierce). My
> big problem with this trade is that I can't imagine we'd be able to sign
> Derek Anderson.
>
> I don't favor this trade (Paul Pierce is going to have his number retired one
> day). But let's just say that I'd take Derek Anderson over Ron Mercer any
> day.
>

I think Clippers loves draft picks (see Lorenzo Wright for 2 no.1s from Hawks deal) becos you can have quality drafted players at cheap salaries locked for 4 years.
The only time Clippers were not cheap was the contract they gave to Loy Vaught, I think he was a loyal (and productive) employee that why he deserves it.

> From: joshozersky@joshozersky.cjb.net
> Subject: shopping Kenny, too
>
> I see where dellasandro notes that we are shopping Kenny, too.
> That's a mistake, I think.  It practically constitutes blowing
> up the team.  Let's hope that it is just talk to see what offers
> come up.  I mean, if we could get in the mutumbo sweepstakes...
>
> otherwise, I say back off.  Kenny is our MVP right now and our
> only real veteran.

I think this road trip will reveal the outcome. If we lose much that we are out of the playoffs, then I think it would be good to trade KA as his value is highest now, and we need some value to dumpu our deadwood with big contracts (Barros/Willliams/Waltar). His 8M salary space would come in handy. (of course the player/s we are trading for got to be a FA end of season)

> From: Kestutis.Kveraga@Dartmouth.EDU (Kestutis Kveraga)
> Subject: Re: Net's Gill and Feick on block
>
> - --- You wrote:
> Gill and Feick available. Gill is a good SG/SF and Feick can rebound
> with the best (didn't he played centre for the Nets?). Good trade if
> Pitino really wants to trade Fortson here (+cap filler)
> - --- end of quote ---
>
> Boy, do we have some brilliant trade strategists on this list or what? And we're putting up with Pitino's Fortson-for-some-third-string-PG trades?  Somebody forward these trade possibilities to Rick, for he obviously doesn't know what he's missing out on.

IMO, Gill is a servicable veteran with size, play good D and can put up points better than Cheany - only knock is on his locker presence. He is a FA end of season, Gaston needs only to pay about 2.5M for half a season's play. If he is bad, we are rid of his 5M salary.
I think the key here is Fieck. He been Jayson William-like at times,  putting up good rebounding numbers. If you trade the Fort, I think you still get rebounding with Fieck. Gaston would love this guy becos he is on 18M/6yr
These 2 who should be more productive than the cap fillers that goes with Fortson. Hell, maybe we can swap no.1s too.

> From: Alex Wang <awang@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Re Trade talk
>
> No... Battie on steroids maybe. Battie has got shotblocking skills but
> he doesn't have the size and man-to-man defensive abilities. I'm talking
> about a combination of the bulk banging ability of Vitaly with the
> athleticism of Battie.
>

Alex, could you give some suggestions/names as to who with such skills is available? I think Battie can block shots, play man-man D, has the tools (but not 100% ideal, you're right no bulk). He got the wrong instructions/coaching from Pitino - trapping on the perimeter (jeezz!). Bulk is good but not a must (see Hakeem).
Also, how to have the bulk like V and yet run like Battie? Zo can't


> I think that a fact that some people forget is that when you trade, you
> very rarely get something for nothing. Jerry West had a quote about what
> makes a good GM, which basically was, "willingness to take risks."
> West trades quite a bit and takes big risks; the Rice for Campbell and
> Jones trade looks pretty bad now, right? But how about trading their
> proven quality center Vlade Divac for cap space (to help sign Shaq)
> and an unproven high school kid (Kobe Bryant)? Pretty damn smart.

I would take this risk too becos the price is a sure thing (Shaq). Kobe, well if he does not work out, no problem, I got the big prize already. Vlade was not the go-to guy or franchise (like Zo, Webber type status), not so much of a "risk" IMO.


> It would be the job of the Celtics staff to figure out which outcome is more likely
> before making a trade like this. My point is, just because someone is
> your best player doesn't mean that he is untradable; he just has a
> higher price than everyone else.

Yeah you're right. For me everybody (including Pitino) except Pierce and AG is tradeable. Becos PP and AG has celtic pride, and you can't "build or train" celtic pride.

> From: "Ozersky, Joshua A" <OzerskyJA@corning.com>
> Subject: Kenny
>
> Lamar Odom (NOT a PG, but DO ANYTHING TO GET THIS GUY --
> HE IS THE NEXT GREAT ONE.)

That time when he was Rookie of the month, I remember him with a outburst (reported in the papers) that basically demands that the Cipps sign Mo Taylor/Derek Anderson if they him (Odom) to stay a clipper in the future. Hah! and this is coming from someone who's wet behind the ears still. I don't want him on my Celtics, talent or not.


cheers
kevin