Re: Trade offer for Bibby

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

I think you have to favor a known commodity over a potential one. Next years
draft could turn out as bad as this one. We do not need another couple of
young kids that it takes 5 years to develop and I don't expect our pick or
Denvers to be top 5. reports have stated Curry and Chandler have a long way
to go and do we need a Zac Randolph or Eddie Griffin ?


I would move picks for Bibby, or Anderson and a pick. He could really open
up Walker and Pierce's games. And he has many productive years ahead of him.
Pierce , Walker and Bibby would be an awesome threesome.


I would still consider

VP & the Utah pick  for Nesterovich and Sczerbiak

or

VP, Carr & a pick for Cato, Thomas & Norris

Cato would fit into the Celtics game very well providing a active shot
blocker who runs the floor well. Moochie Norris has played well for them and
would be a good backup, and Kenny Thomas adds a bruiser down low.

Cato ( Nesterovich) /Battie
Walker
Szcerbiak?
Pierce
Bibby


If I could land Bibby and a few other veterans like Cato, Harrington,
Sczerbiak, that shore up weak spots like the 1 & 5 spots, I would move the
picks.








----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Wang" <awang@MIT.EDU>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: Trade offer for Bibby


> I was glad to read that the Celtics made a real play for Bibby, offering
> two first-rounders and Eric Williams. The main question is, which two
> first-rounders? The value of the two potential lottery picks (our own and
> Denver's) may become better over time for a few reasons. First, there's
> reduced uncertainty: teams will know what draft position they're trading
> into, and even which player they can select if it's on draft day. Second,
> teams will be more focused on the draft and presumably more excited about
> the players in it. On the other hand, the reduced uncertainty may clarify
> for them that they don't want to make the trade, and the approach of the
> draft may reveal that it is overrated. So it can go both ways, but
> generally there's probably a tendency for the value to increase.
>
> But there's also a value to accelerating the rebuilding schedule. That's
> the reason why there's so much complaining on this list, because we want a
> team that improves and wins now. That's why it can be the right thing to
> trade future talent, like draft picks, for present talent. Having a
winning
> team has side benefits too. Better free agents are more likely to sign
with
> a winning team. Your own free agents are more willing to re-sign. The fan
> base is more solid which means more revenue and hopefully a higher payroll
> limit from the owner.
>
> Now if we believe that what we get in the draft is going to help us right
> away in the way that Bibby would, and to a greater extent, it's not worth
> it to gain a half season. On the other hand, if we're going to be drafting
> projects that are going to require two years of NBA seasoning to play at a
> high level, then you have to think carefully. If these guys are going to
be
> overwhelming talents, especially at the center position, then you don't
> make any trades. These are the types of guys you tank seasons for. But
> we're not looking at a team that is built to tank; our pick and Denver's
> pick are likely not going to be that high. What can we get at the 10th
> spot? Well, the list of talent supposedly looks quite impressive. Are 10
or
> more teams going to get sure-thing impact players?
>
> What I like about Bibby is that he's basically a sure thing for the next
10
> years, at a position where we need help. He's been very consistent for
> about two full seasons and is only 22 years old. Maybe he's not a fiery
> leader but we have Antoine and Paul already. I don't know whether he's
> worth two lottery picks; it depends on where in the lottery they are, and
> how good the draft ends up being. I guess depends partially on if all
these
> high school centers declare. The way some of us value these picks, it's
> surprising how little credit Pitino gets for acquiring one in the Mercer
> trade.
>
> Alex
>
>