RE: Father BSG Administers Last Rights

["Michael Griffin" <mgriffin@rillc.com>]

Not sure if it works for the cap but trading Walker + (#1 from Utah
preferrably maybe Denver's) to Chicago for its #1 + Crawford + Artest or
Pfizer?.

Then we have Chicago's #1, Our #1, Denvers or Utah #1.  Of course, the odds
would be good with the ping pong balls but they were good a few years back.
Who do you select?  I'd take Eddie Griffin from Seton Hall over
Curry,Chandler or anyone else.  That guy will be a star - maybe the next
Kevin Garnett and it will not take him 4 years.  If our #1 is top 10 then
maybe Jason Williams from Duke who looks like a very good pro - maybe Frank
Williams of Illinois if he comes out early (I would switch Crawford to
shooting guard - his natural position IMHO).

Then you have a squad which will be young but full of promise with a new
coach without the press (although ironically the team would be talent-wise
better suited for the press).

PG Williams (Jason or Frank)
SG Crawford
SF Pierce
PF Griffin
C Battie

I think you'd have to be absolutely sold that Curry would be the next Shaq
as opposed to the next Stanley Roberts.  If you'll recall Roberts was the
better prospect out of high school and I think its much easier to spot
potential success at any spot other than Center.  All the good centers in
the league today would not have been #1 picks out of high school.  They all
cut their teeth in NCAAs (Shaq,Duncan,Mourning,etc...).  Drafting Curry
might be too much on potential; Griffin has played at least against NCAA
talent and is already an all-american and could end up on many of the
post-season teams.

I think the focus would be to move Anderson and/or Potapenko's contracts
would be my top priorities taking little in return if I had to.

See I'm already looking forward to the draft because I firmly believe the
Celtics will have a worse record than last year.  I think it'll be 30 wins
+/-4.  They'll be hard pressed to win 25 games at home and they will be
lucky to win 10 games on the road.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> kai_brunnen_g@ix.netcom.com
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:42 AM
> To: Celtic_Pride@egroups.com; celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: Father BSG Administers Last Rights
>
>
> Last rites, post-midnight slip.
>
> Wrong as usual, about Pot. He's a $5 million dollar back-up center
> on a team that needs cap space desperately. I don't think there's
> too many $5 million dollar back-up centers out there with Pot's
> level of talent. Now, if Pot was good enough to start, his salary
> would be more
> equitable, even a bargain. But, alas, he's an overpriced reserve, who has
> declined in talent.
>
> Wrong as usual, about Stith: You're playing with fire, if you keep him
> around. This is a guy who has been constantly injured. This is a team,
> that needs to delete contracts and acquire draft choices for a
> Pitino-GM-less future. Stith is marketable right now. You've got to take
> advantage of that, while you can.   Before he goes down with another
> injury.
>
> Wrong as usual, with your wise remark on Jamal Crawford.
> BSG's reference to a Stith trade, involved trading him to
> a contending team. As far as my views on Crawford, I think along the
> lines of Moiso and the Phoenix pick for him, or Walker to the Bulls
> for their unprotected lottery pick, Crawford, and another player.
>
> And the Chicago loss was despicable. So, if it doesn't bother
> you too much, what can you say....
>
> Ray
>
>
> > ** Original Subject: RE: [Celtic_Pride] Father BSG Administers
> Last Rights
> > ** Original Sender: Kestutis.Kveraga@dartmouth.edu (Kestutis Kveraga)
> > ** Original Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:20:52 -0800
>
> > ** Original Message follows...
>
> >
> > --- You wrote:
> >
> > BSG beat me to the punch regarding trading Bryant Stith. They should
> >
> > definitely move him out before the trading deadline. Pot and Stith
> >
> > for....
> >
> > --- end of quote ---
> >
> >
> > Sure, let's ship off our only proven veteran two-way player,
> along with our two
> > stars for Jamal Crawford....Way (of the Ray) to go, folks....
> Let's become
> > Chicago East, which Way, Mark, and some others seem to advocate.
> >
> >
> > Oh, wait a minute, didn't we get spanked by Chicago the other
> night? So, maybe
> > it's not so bad to be Chicago...BTW, that loss didn't bother me
> too much,
> > because it probably indicates one of two things:
> >
> > 1) our main guys had a bad night, which happens;
> >
> > 2) our main guys don't really care if they lose games like this
> because of the
> > Pitino situation described by BSG. And that's fine, because it
> will probably
> > hasten the end of the Pitino era, which can't come soon enough for me.
> >
> >
> > In any case, before blowing up the team, why not change one
> thing at a time
> > like a careful experimenter, and see how our current core of
> players does with
> > a new coach, eh? If there's no improvement, then sure, ship
> them out. But I do
> > believe that Walker and Pierce are only going to get better,
> including on
> > defense, and the right coach and some maturation (agree with
> Cecil on that)
> > will make them perennial All-Stars. Stith is the kind of player
> we should hold
> > on to, not dump with bad salaries. (And Pot, despite being
> talentless, is not
> > really a 'bad' contract. Like (I think) Alex has pointed out,
> that's the kind
> > of center  $5M/yr gets you in the NBA these days - most centers
> making that
> > kind of money are pretty much stiffs, except for those on the
> rookie scale.)
> >
> >
> > Kestas
> >
> > PS and what the hell are last 'rights' anyway?
>
>
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