RE:

[mberry@journalink.com (Mark Berry)]

You know, I have a real problem with this line of discussion. Boston already has
a reputation around the country as a racist city. I've been frustrated in the
past when telling others that I am a Celtic fan, to be told I only like them
"because they're so white." Many ignorant basketball fans consider the Celtics a
racist organization, despite their ground-breaking racial tolerance in the areas
of player acquisition and coaching. And now we, supposedly the most
knowledgeable of Celtic fans, add fuel to the fire with a list discussion of the
great white players on those Celtic teams and their merits in terms of
"chemistry and lack of ego." Talk like that perpetuates stereotypes (the black
quarterback is an athlete, the white QB a student of the game OR the black
basketball player is an athlete, the white one a hard-worker). I expect better
from those on this list. We're embarking on a crucial offseason in this team's
development, and this is what we want to discuss? It's sad.

Mark

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From:      "R. Bentz Kirby" <bocelts@usit.net> at Internet
Sent:      Friday, May 28, 1999 8:14 PM
To:      Michael Gooen <callmebogie@yahoo.com> at Internet
Cc:      j.hironaka@unesco.org at Internet; celtics@igtc.com at Internet
Subject:      RE:

Once, when I valued security more than happiness, I toiled in the bowels
of a large law firm.  During the 1986 playoffs, a lawyer (native Cuban)
who was unfamiliar with the NBA or the Celtics walked in and saw that
the Celtics had 5 white players on the floor.  He quizzed us and said,
isn't that unusual for a team to have so many white players.  And one of
the knowledgeable replied, "But Ricardo, those of 5 of the meanest white
boys you would ever know."  The explanation did not seem to satisfy him.
But, I think the 1986 team is a good example of the chemistry and lack
of ego that is necessary to win, and which is missing from the current
Celitcs.  So, what is going to happen about those two all important
issues now that we have SOME talent?

Michael Gooen wrote:
>
> Joe wrote:
>
> <<Changing the subject back to Warwick's All Caucasian Team, it
> occurred
> to me that the entire 1999 league of white players probably would have
> gotten thrashed in four straight by the 7 white boys on the 1986Celtics
> (Walton, McHale, Wedman, Ainge, Sichting, Kite and who's that
> otherone?)  :-)>>
>
> You mean Rick Carlisle, right?
>
> Of course, there was an 8th....  The '86 Celtics had only three black
> players -- Robert Parish, Sam Vincent and David "Thirdstring" Thirdkill
> (who took Sly Williams' place early in the year) -- and one sort of
> reddish player -- DJ.
>
> My, what a fascinating topic...
>
> Michael Gooen
>
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