Re: Drug testing

[Shawn Roth <ufpdev!shawnr@uunet.uu.net>]

I don't think that coersion is the correct term here, more like terms of
employement.  I really don't think that they have the right to come to my home
and look what I have, but once I step onto the grounds of their
complex(property), they are libale for what I do.  If I am driving a company
car, then I wouldn't doubt they already check that stuff, in my car, I don't
think so.  Are think you are pushing this a bit far.  Maybe in your eyes you
are not pushing this, but I do.

Have a good day,

Shawn

Originally from Jim Meninno:
> 
> What other crimes would you let yourself be investigated for when there 
> was no evidence to suggest you had committed them?  Can your employer 
> come to your house and look around for stolen goods, pornography, 
> illegal aliens?  Would you mind if they decided to question your 
> acquaintances to ask if you assault your wife/girlfriend?  What if they 
> decided to put a device on your car that recorded your driving habits 
> and they could tell if you had been speeding?  Again, I have no problem 
> with conditions of employment that prohibit illegal activity, but I do 
> think that it is a violation to coerce an employee into providing 
> physical evidence for speculative investigation.
> 
> Jim
> 
> >From: Shawn Roth <ufpdev!shawnr@uunet.uu.net>
> >Subject: Re: Drug testing
> >To: jim_meninno@hotmail.com (Jim Meninno)
> >Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:12:10 -0500 (EDT)
> >Cc: celtics@igtc.com
> >
> >I do not consider this to be a violation. I am just abiding by company 
> policy.
> >If I don't like it I can work somewhere else.  Sooner or later, one 
> side or the
> >other would have to give in.  Either my current employer won't have 
> enough
> >employee to continue in business, or employees won't mind random drug 
> tests to
> >remain employed here.  There are always choices.
> >
> >Originally from Jim Meninno:
> >> 
> >> I don't really have a problem with this, probably because I don't 
> >> consider the desk/computer/telephone I use while at work to be my 
> own.  
> >> I think it is a very long stretch from that to drug testing.  I hope 
> >> some people reply to my question.  I would be very interested to know 
> >> how many others have had to endure the violations that you have.
> >> 
> >> Jim
> >> 
> >> >From: Shawn Roth <ufpdev!shawnr@uunet.uu.net>
> >> >Subject: Re: Drug testing
> >> >To: jim_meninno@hotmail.com (Jim Meninno)
> >> >Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:24:07 -0500 (EDT)
> >> >Cc: celtics@igtc.com
> >> >
> >> >Jim,
> >> >
> >> >   One last thing.  It has also been found, much to your suprise I'm 
> >> sure, that
> >> >   anything you leave at work, either in your desk or on your 
> >> PC(including
> >> >   E-mails after 90 days), can be legally searched without your 
> consent 
> >> or
> >> >   knowledge.  So I'm sure that random drug testing really isn't a 
> >> stretch.
> >> >   Remember, big brother is always watching.....
> >> >
> >> >Shawn
> >> >   
> >> >  
> >> 
> >> 
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