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Re: Webber's agent spins



Shawn,

That's kinda what I thought you were trying to say.  Like any such system 
however we are now seeing that in reality it is never really an owners rule 
situation.  As long as people are willing to pay for the product and the 
employees are willing to accept the conditions, all is well.

It is when owners cannot find employees they need who will accept their 
conditions, or when the public looses faith in the product that owners start

to loose their control.

Right or wrong I suspect Cannabis is being used as a minor barganing chip.  
In the end, if the players union and the owners don't mind making it
illegal, 
it will become so.  If at any stage enough players and/or owners want to 
change this, then it will end up on the table again.


                Have fun,

                        David N.

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From: Shawn Roth
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Wow,

  Here is my overall point.  The league has the right to ban/test for 
whatever
  they want.  If they think something hurts the league image, then they will
  ban it.  If all of the sudden people feel that baby powder is evil, the
  league has the right to make it illegal.  If the players don't like it, 
play
  for another league.  I realize the is some problems with these statements,
  the biggest being is that without players like Cannabis Webber, and other 
pot
  smokers of his type, there is no league, but in a perfect world this is
the
  way it should be.

  The owners make the rules, the employees follow them.  That is it...does 
that
  explain my point?  To be real honest, I don't really care if the want to
  light up, just as long as they are quiet about it, and are willing to pay 
the
  price of being caught.

Shawn

Originally from Nissen, David:
>
>
> Um Shawn, I suspect you havent thought your case(s) through very well.  I
> actually agree with some of the things I think you are trying to say, but
I 

> have to take exception to some of your arguments.
>
>
> >  athesist homosexual plays just as good as a baptist transsexual, more
> power
> >  to them, but Drugs hurt your performance....
>
>     Not always so, even if we restrict the point to non-performace 
enhancing
>
> drugs.  I had a house mate for a number of years who was a dictionary of
> strange sports trivia, and one of the many trivial lists of facts he kept
> was
> a list of sporting feats accomplished under the influence of recreational
> drugs.  The one that stands out in my mind was a major league pitcher who
> threw a no-hitter while on acid.  Alternatively if you are a cricket fan,
> ask yourself why Viv Richards (a damn fine batsman) was nicknamed
> "Smokey".
>
> However I have frequently heard of Athletes abstaining from sex the night
> before a big event.  Damn it, people paid good money to see Wilt, and he
> admited to having rediculous amounts of sex, I wonder if it is too late to
> get their money back.
>
> >In the end is comes down to this.  Black is Black, White is White, and
> >Illegal
> >is Illegal.  If NBA players want to smoke dope, the start the DSBA,
> >Dope
>
> OK hows this fit into your world view.  Webber who is BLACK travels to
> Amsterdam during the alstar break, to get over not being selected.  He
> meets a local (WHITE) gentleman who shows him around and he ends up 
drowning
>
> his sorrows in a half dozen Sundays of a suspicious GREEN colour (legal
> there).  A couple of days later he comes to and flys back to the states,
> feeling much more relaxed an focused.  A week later he is tested for drugs
> and comes up positive to Dope (the tests are generaly considered to be
able 

> to, at best, detect usage within the last couple of weeks).
>
> He has done nothing ILLEGAL, however the NBA could take action if it is a
> banned substance.
>
> Of course, ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL and BLACK is not WHITE, so it seems fair for
> the NBA to also punish those who are caught drinking in towns where it is
> banned, or caught speeding (they are role models after all), or who get
> parking tickets !!!   How come you have not suggested these already ?
>
>
>
>         - David N.
>
>
> 
 
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