Re: Karma and sin

["Scott Schrade" <schrade@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Thanks, us hillbillies need for y'all to slow up a bit for us. :-)

Sheeeit, boy!  I's practically right next door to youse - right in Ohia!  ;-)
Talkin' that Michigan sheeeit.....

> Religious zealots? You don't even know where I received this information. It 
> is from Dr. Boris P. Dotsenko, 

Oh, of course.  Dr. Dotsenko.  Yes....Dotsenko....of course.... 

> Someone else saw the same fact?

Fact?  No.  Others have used the same *fallacy* in their religious "literature." 

> As ordered and maintained by the God who created it and set it to be so. 

Ah yes, the ole' resort-to-the-untestable-premise-of-God-because-you-don't-
have-any-evidence-to-back-up-your-claims routine.  Yawn. 

> Cut off your toes and see how well you can walk. I'm glad that I have them.

So, human toes are for stabilized walking & chimpanzee toes are for clasping
to tree branches.  Wow.  Amazing reasoning.

 > Are you saying that my ancestors were monkeys? 

No, your ancestors were humans, homo-sapiens.  However, monkeys & humans
*do* share a common ancestor dating back a few hundred thousand years.
Humans & monkeys both evolved *separately* from this ancestor, you see.
Shocking, I know.  But true.  

> The evolutionists are talking things that belong to many thousands of years 
> ago or many thousands of years in the future, things which we will never see or 
> be able to hold up for questioning.  

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but if you cared to read any of noted anthropol-
ogist Stephan Jay Gould's books, you'll find numerous essays about evolution,
in action, occurring today, right now.  How do you think more virulent strains of 
disease come about?  Ones which don't respond any more to our antidotes?  
That's evolution, in action, on a microbial scale.

And I'm sure you'll want to proudly say that humans aren't microbes but the
fact remains that evolution *can & is* being studied via observation & testable
hypotheses.  And fossil finds are occurring every year which only lend credibility
to evolution.    

> I believe the bible.  The bible is God's word.  

Sadly, you're putting your faith in words written in uneducated times, hundreds 
of years ago, by sexist men, who feared death, wanted to subjugate the masses,
& simply made up stories to explain what they could not.

> Moses knew that the earth came from underwater many years before scientists 
> made this discovery.  

Please tell me what else Moses discovered before scientists of the modern age -
other than the easily-graspable hypothesis that the earth at one time may have
been completely covered in.....liquid would be a better word.  Moses was oddly
quiet on the subject of continental drift, I'd imagine.

> If you understood the first two verses of the bible, you would understand that 
> all the attacks on the bible by geology are beating the air.

So, the first two verses in the Bible refute all the geological, astronomical, &
cosmological work done by scholars & scientists over the years.  Do you
ever feel silly believing the things you do?  Of course you don't.  Faith will guide
you.  Right through the evil trappings of truth & common sense.

> But theories are proved and are sometimes disproved.

True.  That's called the scientific method.  It's backed it up with evidence & re-
sults.  Let's try to prove or disprove the existence of God, OK?  Whoops!
Can't do it.  Untestable.  Therefore, not even worth pondering.  On to reality....   

> They are formed by men and men do make mistakes.  There is no doubt 
> about this. 

So, the men who wrote the Bible then.....technically they could've made mis-
takes, too, right?  Not *every* word in the Bible was spoken by God.  Must
be chock full of mistakes, I would imagine.

> No. I mean, what sin did Pete do that requires an apology to you? 

OK.  I'll drop the apology request.  I'll settle for some simple "accepting re-
sponsibility for his actions," then.  Am I allowed to hope for that?  Or is that,
too, beyond the realm of having anything to do with me?  Is even *that* too
much to ask for from someone I've admired & supported for over 20 years?

Pete seems to accept & hold dearly all the *positive* feedback from his
fans.  Why should the *negative* feedback be stifled & disassociated?


- SCHRADE in Akron