In a message dated 4/25/00 3:22:55 PM Central Daylight Time, Cabrio2NV@aol.com writes: << 021 103 397 >> Dump the HDH, and it becomes a stud/bracket (8mmx45mm long) from the valve cover, my parts guy tells me.....should be 14 on there. David Steele 1998 JettaGLX TRed 1988 JettaGL White 1987 Jetta Marine Blue northern IL / west TN rep. VENOM Motorsports http://www.venommotorsports.com