Re: 1.8t swap

["Michael & Carmen Keith" <mikeandcarmen@pdq.net>]

If you're willing to spend enough money and you're on very good terms with a
shop that can do custom fabrication, you can make just about any engine fit
in any car.  For this type of swap, everything would have to be custom
fabricated, & the wiring would have to be custom made as well.  This would
all be extraordinarily expensive, & therefore, I would have to ask what it
is you're looking to get out of such a project.  This is not meant to be a
rhetorical question to make you feel unintelligent.  Rather, because of the
extraordinary expense involved, I don't think I can give you a valid opinion
without knowing the motive behind such a swap.

If you simply want a unique combination, & you have the financial resources
for such a project, then I would say that you need to talk to the best hot
rod shop you can find about your project.  While such shops are usually
focused on American cars rather than Europeans, they are your best bet for
custom work.  These are the type of shops that fit Corvette drive trains
into pre-war cars with excellent results in fit, finish, & driveability.
They have the skills & equipment to custom make anything you can dream up.
However, for the money it would cost you, you could probably buy a brand new
VW & a brand new Volvo & have plenty of money left to modify both.

If you're thinking of doing this project because you like the T5's engine,
you'd be much better off financially by selling your Dad's car & buying a
T5.

If it's more power that you're after, your best bet is simply to modify your
Dad's VR6.

Either way, good luck.  If you do actually pull off such a swap, I'd love to
see pictures as it would probably be the first of its kind.

Michael Keith
Pasadena, TX
'98 Jetta GLX
'85 Golf SCCA ITB
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Ziobrzynski <martin@pzi.net>
To: jettaglx@igtc.com <jettaglx@igtc.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: 1.8t swap


>Hi i am 15 and i will be getting my dads VR6 97
>i was wondering if the Volvo T5 engine will fit in it?
>please dont treat me like crazy i get that alot just for being young
>and i know lots bout cars so you dont have to use 8 year old vocab to
explain
>something
>Thanks
>
>Alexxi wrote:
>
>> I should have been more specific. While the  G60 isn't known for
>> reliability , on a tweaked 1.8t (anything past 12psi - 200 Hp ) the K03
>> most certainly needs replacing with the larger K04 otherwise it spins
>> faster than intended and vibrates excessively which may result in a
broken
>> blades and or shaft.... little pieces of spinning metal entering the
engine
>> will have a nasty effect on reliability  : ) The upgrade kit from
Neuspeed
>> incudes one of these larger turbos and since its the OEM  on the Audi TT
>> its a direct bolt on.
>>
>> At 05:33 PM 10/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >The only thing not reliable in the G60 is the charger.  The same can be
>> said for
>> >the K03 on the 1.8t.  If you pump 15 psi of boost thru it, it isn't
gonna
>> last for
>> >anything.
>> >
>> >I guess my main point is that total cost of putting a 1.8t in an A2
Jetta
>> would be
>> >outrageous.  The motor goes for about 2k, not to mention the electronics
and
>> >tranny, the all the custom motor mounts that would need to be made.
Quite an
>> >expensive swap.  Granted, it would be super good(better in an A2 Golf),
it
>> would
>> >cost alot of dough, and take considerable time.
>> >
>> >Alexxi wrote:
>> >
>> >> Maybe so but from what I've read in some mag's the G60 is pretty
stressed
>> >> out the way it is and isn't reliable much past 200hp. The 1.8t  is de
tuned
>> >> from the Audio version of 220 hp (I think ) and is said to run
reliably up
>> >> to about 300 hp. Having owned a few turbo cars (Supra Turbo, 626
Turbo) and
>> >> driven a few supercharged one's (G60, MR2, T-Bird) I would go turbo
unless
>> >> cost is a major factor.
>> >>
>> >> At 09:19 AM 10/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >you can get about 200 hp from a G60 for a third of the cost, and the
motor
>> >> will
>> >> >slip right into your car.  Unless you want to spend a ton of money
just to
>> >> get
>> >> >the motor in there, I would stay with the G60.  FWIW, the stock G60
>> puts out
>> >> >158 hp while the stock 1.8t puts out 150 hp.
>> >> >
>> >> >b-
>> >> >
>> >> >ClOwNToKeR@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> how much does a 1.8t cost new ? how much for a transplant ? what do
i
>> need
>> >> >> for the transplant ? i was going to do the old g60 transplant but
the
>> 1.8t
>> >> >> can put out 210hp with a chip and exaust :)damn to temting to pass
up
>> also
>> >> >> with this conversion do you have to use throttle by wire :( i dont
>> want a
>> >> >> computer controling how much gas i give also would i still be able
to
>> use a
>> >> >> gti tranny i heard cable shifters are crappy?
>> >> >> ian
>> >> >> 85 jetta gl
>> >> >> :::modded:::
>> >> >
>> >
>
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>Martin Ziobrzynski <martin@pzi.net>
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>
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