Re: Boge TurboGas - crap

["Tom M. Matthews" <tmmatthews@worldnet.att.net>]

My nearly-80mm-lower car is not in any danger of killing the oil pan. I
can't even scrape my spoiler on speed bumps. My whole point is your
recommendation should be IYHO. That is a pretty sweeping recommendation
to make, and is only applicable to those people who don't want the car
that much lower. I felt it was a disservice to listers to present one
side (yours) without the other (mine). I know for a fact Wally would
disagree!

SO...here are the facts:

A) '94-'95 VR6 cars have a 19mm higher perch than '96+ cars.
B) Using early-spec parts on later cars will yield a 19mm *increase* in
ride height.
C) Using late-spec parts on early cars will yield a 19mm *decrease* in
ride height.
D) Use the correct-spec part and the ride height is unchanged.
E) Bilstein makes a '94-'95 spec strut *and* a '96+ spec strut; Konis
and most likely Spax only make '96+ spec struts (i.e. 19mm lower perch
relative to early cars).
F) An X+19mm drop on early cars = an X drop on late cars with respect to
final ride height.
G) This only applies to non-Neuspeed Bilsteins

Make your own decisions based on your personal driving and cosmetic
tastes.

IMHO, Ground Control coilovers with Koni or Truechoice Koni coilovers
are *the* way to go...NS Race and Konis come a close second if you have
good roads  :)

Tom M. Matthews
tmmatthews@worldnet.att.net
'95 GTI VR6

John Hamill wrote:

<miscellaneous snippage below>

> Clowns because they don't seem to jive with what Bilstein itself says. One has to talk to

> One cannot usually order a correct spring. That is why I emphasized using the strut with a
> taller perch because most *lowering* springs here in the States work better with that
> strut, regardless of what year your VR6 GTI or GLX is. If you like to have
> your front end on the ground, fine. I can say from experience that Neuspeed, Eibach, and
> Hor lowering springs make the front of the car sit REAL low when combined with the 96 and
> up style struts. Low enough so that the oil pan is in definite jeopardy (a
> new block is $3000). Shine springs were designed for the 19 mm dropped strut and work
> great in terms of ride height. They just have a high spring rate that some may not like.

> 96). That is why I would recommend the VN3-4172's for the front for ANY year VR6 A3 VW
> (not Corrado) where you intend to use a lowering spring (except when you KNOW the spring
> is meant for the lower strut - Shine etc.). I guess this is a matter of taste also. If you
> really want to slam the car, use the lower strut.

> My car is an early 94 GLX. So the VN3-4172 is correct for that year. Also check out the
> project Jetta GLX in EC, I believe they used the taller style Neuspeed Bilsteins.