Yeah, when I bought my '97 GLX last year, it had only 14,500 miles, perfect condition, loaded, and I got it for $17,500. According to the mfg. date, it was onle about 6 months old. If the dealer could sell an almost new car for that, I doubt that whoever traded it in got very much... ROB '97 GLX green/beige leather cold winter package DEI keyless entry Pioneer/JBL/Infinity/Hifonics/Phoenix Gold