Re: Stock Jetta GLX spanks 2 Modified late Model SE-Rs

[Uwe Ross <uwe.ross@pobox.com>]

Joe Mann wrote:
> 
> To the lists, Uwe is concerned about a flame war with the SE-R list.  At
> this moment I have not received any emails from anyone on that list

I'm not surpised.  Your post only went out at ~01:30 this morning; give
it time.  Then again, maybe the people on the SE-R list have enough
class not to take your bait.  I kinda doubt it though. <g>

> First off Uwe, the human ear is an amazing thing. It was quite easy to tell
> with out even seeing the tail pipe of this vehicle that it was not stock.

Yes, you're right you can usually tell a "performance" echaust by it's
sound, but you made no mention how those SE-Rs sounded, you only said
"Wide tipped mufflers and all."  I do not think you can tell the
diameter of someone's exhaust outlet by ear.   

> Besides, one of these little shits decided he would warm up his tires a bit,
> so he gave me a little show by spinning them and then backing up into
> position. i.e. I had a clear view of his exhaust.

OK, how big was it?  Single or dual?  <g>

> Uwe, there are no corrections to be made here.  I take my stock Jetta GLX to
> 130 on a regular bases here in the lovely heart of Texas where the roads are
> big and long. As a mater of "fact" I reached 130 quite easily the other
> night when a little CRX si decided he would try to keep up with me on the
> free way late one night.  Uwe, why would VW electronically govern the car to
> 130 if they didn't think it could do it? 

No you misunderstood me.  The our cars (with stock chips) will not quite
reach an honest 130 *because* of the speed limiter.  The party is over
at 127-129 with the stock chip.  Due to speedometer error you might
*think* you're doing "130+ MPH", but you're not. 

> Next time your in town, I'd be
> happy to take you for a little ride. Oh, I'm aware of the 3 MPH discrepancy
> in the electronic VDO instrument cluster. I've gotten my needle to 133-134
> on a number of occasions.

That's quite unnecessary.  I have a G-chip equipped 1997 GTI-VR6 which
do an *honest* 140+. <g>

>> * Next time, shift between 5800 and 6000 rpm and you'll win by a larger
>> margin.
> 
> Uwe, it's exceedingly easy to get to 6000 RPMs in first gear. It take less
> that a second to get between 5k and 6.5k when you've got the peddle matted.
> Besides, I only mentioned it relating to first. Let's not get anal here.

I'm not being anal.  You reported shifting out of first at 6500.  You
*will* be faster if you make that shift at 5800-6000.  Yes, I know how
easy it is to exceed 6000, I hit my stock chip's rev limiter a number of
times in first.  But the fact remains that doing so is
counter-productive.
 
> Uwe, I've got one word for you "delete".  The next message you see with the
> above subject line, DELETE it! 

Gee where have I heard that before?  I know!  That's what all the
spammers say!  It vaguely  reminds me of the "I was just following
orders" defense against war crimes <g>.

Look, I don't mind you (or anyone else) posting "conquest" stories here;
lots of people do that, and I actually enjoy reading them.   But if you
must troll the SE-R (or any other model-specific list) please do *not*
include our list address in your message headers.  There are two ways to
do that:  

* You can send out two seperate messages containing the same body, one
addressed to us and one to "them".  This is not very much work if you
copy and paste. 

* If your mailer supports it, you can use the "blind copy" to hide other
recipent's addresses. 

- -Uwe-