re: Re: The Boer/Boor Wars and the Charge of the Chickenshi-tees

[wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

> Untrue; many teams rebuild on the run.  Look at Houston,

Say what - They rebuilt with top 3 picks: Francis and Ming. 

> San Antonio,

Yeah, they lucked out and got Dunca, the Number One choice.

 our own Celtics before Reggie Lewis died,

McHale = top 3 pick; Bird 6th pick, Parish obtained in a trade because the
Celtics had the number one pick; and the Celtics were in decline during the
Lewis Coke era.

> and of course Utah is also pretty good now.  Generally,
> Ray is right:  teams don't get titles without a top lottery
> pick.  But they can get good, and even become contenders.
> 
> Josh

All the examples -- except Utah and they're not in the class of the other
teams -- you cited Josh, are clubs that were able to 
rebuild because of having high lottery choices. With the Celtics unlikely
to have a high lottery pick, it will be very difficult for them to rebuild
the club to a championship level. Not impossible, but difficult.

If it comes down to the 7th/8th pick in the draft (which is were they 
would have been sans Atkins trade) or being blown out in the
first round and drafting 15-17, I'll take the Lottery Pick.
Ray 



> ----- Original Message ----- From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:03 AM
> Subject: rRe: The Boer/Boor Wars and the Charge of the Chickenshi-tees
> 
> 
> > Pierce on the block, eh Egg, a good idea. When you're rebuilding,
> > you can't be wishy-washy and do things half-way, which is what the
> > Atkins trade was.  Took the Celtics right out of a sweet lottery pick
> > and a possible franchise point, as you have to believe one of the Paul -
> > Livingston - Telfair trio would have been available there.
> >
> > And it's hard to see a disgruntled Pierce wanting to stick around
> > for the Ainge plan to reach fruition.  Picking up a piece there and
> > a player here, just doesn't get the job done, unless you have
> > owners willing to blow up their salary cap and/or are like the Knicks,
> > very attractive to big time free agents.
> >
> > You simply can't rebuild halfway - you've got to be bad and hope
> > you're bad in the draft years, where franchise players are available.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> > >
> > > < You don't see anyone else claiming to have inside information.
> >-Jessen
> > >
> > > Maybe they don't have any.
> > >
> > > < Just put up or shut up. At the end of the day, BS is still BS..... > -
> > > Jessen
> > >
> > > Herebs another little trinket for you, Sir Redvers.   Pierce is on the
> > > trading
> > > block. He has been placed there by our own little Danny, the most
> > > highly skilled market maker this side of George Soros.
> > >
> > > Remember when Danny single-handedly lowered Toinebs market value by
> > > placing that full page add for him in the NY Times   "Point forward
> > > available.
> > > 50% off this week only," and then denied to Toine and all that he was
> > > on the market?
> > >
> > > Fast forward/deja vu.   The ever-subtle Danny is now frenetically
> rushing
> > > hither and yon extending trade feelers on Paul thus lowering his market
> > > value as well.   Of course this, too, will be denied all the way till
> the
> > > "surprise" trade day.
> > >
> > > In all fairness to Danny, I should note here that he is equally adept at
> > > single-handedly RAISING MARKET VALUE.   Just ask Marcus Banks who was
> > > responsible for his miraculous ascension from second-round nobody to
> > > lottery wonderkind.
> > >
> > > No doubt about it, Ainge is a natural market maker.   We are lucky to
> > > have him.
> > >
> > > Egg
> >
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