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Re: Ange WEEI Comments Today
I agree. The celtics have their one bona-fide all-nba
superstar. They're not going to get another one, although
adding in a player of (say) Shawn Marion's caliber will
certainly help a lot. I would say that the main thing this
season should be to play Kendrick Perkins 20+ minutes
a game. If he is what he looks like, the Celtics will have
one of the most talented teams in the NBA 1-12.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Ange WEEI Comments Today
> I was also troubled by Danny's comments today. I have been very supportive
> Danny throughout, both because of his vision and because of his moves
> he done well on 90% of them. I thought the plan was to make the Cs like
> Kings. Yes, it takes a little bit of luck in any business. However, we are
> already well on our way in achieving that goal of building to being like
> We are already the youngest team in the Eastern conference. We have
> scorers, guys who can dribble the ball at every position. We have gone to
> uptempo basketball.You just now have to let them mature and with that
> of luck, see what you have after a few years. You add the five draft picks
> wild cards to find a couple more guys that are keepers and sign another
> with the MLE. Maybe you can get a veteran or two to sign on for cheap in
> couple of years that likes the style of play and the chance for a
> That should be it.
> But now, Danny is seems to be implying that getting an impact player in
> lottery draft or another superstar is a requirement to achieve his vision.
> First, the Kings don't have that. They have a lot of above average players
> they don't have a Duncan or Shaq. (Of course, they haven't won anything
> But the Kings never finished in the lottery to gain a player. (Please
> start an arguement of how good you think Webber, Pedja or Bibby are. That
> weren't that good when the Kings traded for them and none of the them are
> Second, two guys that NBAdraft.net has listed as the 7 and 8 players are
> Gordan and J Nelson. Both guys would have come out last year if the Cs
> have guaranteed to take them at 16. Therefore, you can get lottery players
> 16 but you need another year to develop them. Sure the odds are better
> you are taking a risk that they don't turn out the way you expected.
> you can still get the players, they will just be more raw and a little
> risky. You just have to have a coach committed to long term and
> So Danny threw me a little curveball here. Now maybe some of his words got
> lost in translation. Danny is the most assessible GM I have ever seen.
> needs to go scouting for awhile and stay away from the mike. Or maybe he
> tired of all the flak and now wants to make it look like he was planning
> the lottery this year. Danny, we know we lost Vin, Raef, had a coaching
> and are changing a style of play. But I think we have hit bottom. We have
> turned the corner. We don't want to become the Bulls. Build through
> through weakness. Getting a 7-8 player over a 15 player just reduces the
> Forget the lottery. Push these guys through the playoffs and you might be
> surprised what you find. There isn't anyone I'm afraid this year in the
> except for the Pacers. You shouldn't see them until the ECF. You don't see
> trying to get the Griz into lottery and you could argue them don't have
> talent or a better chance in the West than we have. You might find you may
> need Ben Gordan....
> << Danny Ainge was on WEEI's Big Show with Glenn Manboobs Ordway,
> Steve Longsnapper DeOssie and Mike Where Are The Drugs Adams
> Here's a summary:
> BS: Danny How are you?
> A: Enjoying the gig, so far.
> A: I Enjoy the challenge.
> BS: Expect some of the negativity
> A: Yes ~ Not take too much of a step back ~ Talked to Agents and Players
> past summer, no one wanted to play for the Celtics because: 1)Climate;
> 2)Selfish Style, 3) Lottey Team, etc.
> BS: Biggest Barrier you face is to get a legitimate big time player
> A: Players don't even know who Havilicek is (past Celtics greatness)
> Getting that star player is obviously the key to being great.
> A: Time Frame: None of us know ~ Old Celtics got lucky ~ A lot
> of misfortune in recent times: Lottery, Lewis, Bias ~ Bad tough luck
> We're trying to change things, Glen, need to have some fortune to get
> star player in here
> BS DeOssie: Why not blow team up?
> A: Cites Chicago
> A; I don't think you have to blow it up - no guarantee.
> A: If you become really bad, you may be really bad for 4 or 5 years.
> BS: Understand why you had to trade Walker, but why not wait until a more
> package ~ Why deal at that time?
> A: Two reasons: Luxury tax/Cap: Impossible to take on multiple contracts,
> I felt Walker's value wouldn't change Two teams interested in Walker
> BS: Why not let Walker's salary run out?
> A: Only can replace Walker's salary with mid level, got better than that
> Walker trade
> cites 2 firsts, Jiri, LaFrentz, Atkins.
> A: Walker not the kind of leader I wanted on the team
> Paul is not that type of leader either; Chucky Atkins better leader than
> on our team.
> BS: Banks should play more.
> A: Banks should play more
> BS: Atkins buries Banks.
> BS: Conflict going on over winning games and developing players
> BS: Almost better if you lose.
> A: Good in both situations, playoff experience and playing Banks,
> other young players; Morale needs win, fruit of hard work and energy
> BS: You won by 21 points; Banks played 11 minutes.
> A; I think that that is not good
> A: We want to be a good team next year; I don't think a champoin team,
> as team as last two years - a 6th seed next year
> BS: Fans won't be patient enough to hang around untill Celtics better
> ~ Going to have trouble finding a good mid-level guy either,
> they'll opt for Lakers and better clubs.
> How can you get Celtics competetive in a short period of team
> A: I don't think we're that far away.
> A; We can't recruit a player if in the lottery ever year
> A: We've got to do a real good job in the draft
> BS: Jiri a nice find, but problem, easy to get complimentary players
> find star players hard part.
> BS: How do you get them?
> A: Songaila: I've never saw him play before getting to Boston;
> his numbers embelleshed there in Sacramento.
> BS: Songaila playing well
> A: Told by Celtics coaches that he couldn't play in the NBA;
> told by coaches that Walter McCarty was a better player;
> Coach and GM need to be on the same page.
> BS: You had an opportunity to bring in your own coach, why re-sign
> O'Brien, why not bring in your own guy?
> A; Two reasons: Who is my guy and O'Brien and I agreed with each other
> on running, execution of offense, being more attractive to players,
> but season started, and when it came down to
> it, OBie felt comfortable in the defense and didn't want to take a step
> O'Brien didn't want to create a running game or develop young players.
> BS: Paul Pierce sticking around for retooling?
> A: Paul Pierce has a challenge ahead of him, play hard every night,
> other players
> how to win, very difficult; players live in the moment.
> A; New Coach huge asset to recruit player.
> BS: How do you without having a top 1, 2, 3 players turn things around
> A; Have to get lucky; cites other factors.
> A; I believe our owners, when time is right, will pay to get us over the
> Cap Wise, we have restraints
> BS: You need to go out in the draft this year, and have to find the next
> guy, top 5 or 10 player down the line.
> A; No other way than the draft
> A; No way to put a time frame on becoming an elite team in the NBA
> A; You have to get lucky
> A; Competetive and entertaining
> A; Some difference between 8 and 15
> A: By next year, a 40 - 45 win team and a more entertaining
> BS: This year's draft, is there a player out there who is LeBron James?
> A; No, not in the next three drafts
> BS: So not a great player, no James, and you're telling me the only
> way is too build in the draft, how in the hell do you get this guy?
> A: Maybe James top player in the league in 4 years, but
> occasionally you get players in the draft; bloomers like Jordan who
> players develop into great players.
> A: Sacramento most entertaining team in the league and philosophy
> of having guys who can shoot - ballhandling
> A: I believe you need guys who can score.
> A; Carroll has the most dificult job in the league, not enough practice
> playing time to teach fundamentals, talk to McHale about this
> A; Talked to Bird, Auerbach, Mchale about most important quality in a
> Need to have coach on same page as GM, be able to disagree, but then go
> out and play golf or have dinner. >>