[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

RE: [Celtics' Stuff ] "It's not only shortsighted, it's obstinate."-Globe



Are you sure Kim? JJ was traded the year we went to the ECF, which was O'Briens first full year as coach. We didn't make the playoffs the year Pitino\Obie both coached.


From: Kim <kimmalo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Kim <kimmalo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Celtics' Stuff ] "It's not only shortsighted, it's obstinate."-Globe
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:15:53 -0500 (GMT-05:00)


'Fraid not. He was a rookie 2001 -2, which was Pitino's last season/Obie's taking over part way as interim coach. There was about a month overlap before he was traded by Wallace, but most of his time in Boston was under Pitino.
Best
Kim



-----Original Message-----
From: "R. Singh" <keltsfan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Feb 27, 2004 11:59 AM
To: 'Kim' <kimmalo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Celtics' Stuff ] "It's not only shortsighted, it's obstinate."-Globe


Kim, I think JJ was a rookie in O'Brien's first full season as head
coach. - Ravi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Kim
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:27 AM
To: celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff ] "It's not only shortsighted, it's
obstinate."-Globe


It's also inaccurate and cheap shots. JJ and Billups were of course on Pitino's watch, not Obie. Blount's 40 min games have been relatively few and almost all since Obie left, with Walter's even fewer and ditto on timing. Nor was Marcus only playing 10 min a night. While Ainge himself, after Obie left, said that Perkins would not see much more PT this season because he was developing but not really ready. And while I'm at it, everyone with the hindsight is best comments about playing Hunter seems to be assuming that he could have had the game he did the other night if he'd gotten those minutes earlier in the season. Not from what I saw when he did play, and I don't get me wrong - I like Brandon and was enthusiastic to sign him out of summer league where he showed some of the same faults he did in limited minutes earler. As I've said, probably too many times before and not like it's convincing anyone <g>, in game PT is not the only way to develop young players, and clearly! Hunter has been developing through practice, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx
Sent: Feb 27, 2004 7:52 AM
To: Celticsstuffgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff ] "It's not only shortsighted, it's
obstinate."-Globe

Now this is a headscratcher. How can Danny say this after he put Carroll
in
charge? Did Carroll not read the memo? Sure, Hunter played a lot last
game but
that was the first time. Although he starts, Carroll has always
minimized
Mihm's minutes with the perfect example of the game before last where he
had 10
rebounds in the first half and then played minimal minutes in the
second. I
believe Banks only played 5 minutes in the last game and I think we will
continue
to see that. And what about Kendrick? How is he supposed to play when he
is on
the injured list? I assumed that GM was in charge of that or is it the
coach?
If it is the coach, then Carroll definite is in the obstinate category,
preferring Stewart or Kendrick. I'm sure after Hunter's coming out party
that Danny
is feeling validated and wishing his coach would put some time into
Kendrick
also.

So I don't know why Danny is saying this in lieu of what his coach is
doing.
Sounds like another disconnect in the Danny/Obie fashion. If Danny is
Danny
"REAR" Ainge, then Obie was Jim O'Binstant with Carroll now following in
his
father's footsteps....

DJessen33

<< "Another key to the vision is a greater emphasis on developing young
 players," said Ainge, defending himself against O'Brien's army of
 supporters. "I feel like players like Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups
 should be able to develop. One of my biggest concerns, as much as I
 like Walter McCarty and Mark Blount, was letting them play 40 minutes
 against Kenyon Martin while Chris Mihm, Brandon Hunter, and Kendrick
 Perkins sit. It's not only shortsighted, it's obstinate. And not
 playing Marcus Banks more than 10 minutes is unproductive to our
 vision."

 So there. O'Brien is out and interim coach John Carroll has his
 marching orders. And Danny continues to take the bullets while the
 Celtics play themselves out of the playoffs and into the lottery over
 these last 23 games. >>

_________________________________________________________________
Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. locations. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx