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Re: Is it all worth it?

Everyone looks at the 3-5 year plan and assumes that it means we will be bad for 3-5 years. That's not how it works. That 3-5 years is when we will be competing for a title. In the meantime, you continue to get better. This year, and the 2nd half in particular, will represent the low point. I still fully expect the team to win darn near close to 50 games next season.


From: Sean Giovanello <sgiovanello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Shawn Niles <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: Eggcentric@xxxxxxx,  Celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Is it all worth it?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:47:46 -0500

I do not know if his plan work. I have swung from optimistic to ambivalent with an occasional fit of pessimism when it comes to Danny. However, one thing is starting to look clear, this team is not going to get markedly better fast. As you say Shawn, it seems as though it will be played out for years. If its a 5 year plan rather than progress next year and results the year after, I do not think we will ever be able to answer the question. That is because I do not think Danny will be around if that is the case. So, we run the risk of just when we might find out if it will work Ainge either resigning or being fired and someone new coming in with another plan.

Shawn Niles wrote:

Eveyone is making assumptions that Ainges plan won't work. But even Egg admits that she doesn't know. She says there are no guarantees. So how can she be so sure that the plan will not work? Those that believe in Ainge give their reasons why the plan will work. Those who don't believe in Ainge give their opinions why the plan won't work.

So round and round we go. This is Act 2 of the big Celtic Debate play. Act one was whether or not to trade Antoine. Act two is whether or not Danny's plan will work. This act seems as though it will be played out for years, as was the Trade Antoine act. So get ready for years of debates people. We'll go back and forth for at least the next few years. Everyone will make their points, each side will try and dispute the other side's points while trying to prove their own. Round and round we go. The bottom line is no one knows for sure. One side will end up being right and one side will end up being wrong but there will be no way to tell until it is played out.


From: Eggcentric@xxxxxxx
To: Celtics@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Is it all worth it?
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:37:31 EST

If you find yourself suffering from Celt nightmares, just remember that
none of us are hypocrites in our sleep.

Danny's ego has needed assuaging since that dark day back when
Auerbach dumped him. And what better way to heal himself and play
God than through the draft.  After all, it allows him a 3-5 year window
before the "Ainge is a Fraud" posse has enough evidence to go ahead
with the lynching.

James is no loss even if Danny, pissed that Travis Best had the audacity
to say "I'll let you know," quickly signed James claiming he had been
his first choice of PG all along. So what if Danny made offers to at
least four other PG's ahead of James, Mike was his guy all along.
But that was yesterday. Today Danny says we have someone even better
than James, we have Atkins, the quintessential example of the veteran
PG we need to mentor Banks AND, wait till you hear this, another
first round draft choice. YIPPEE! Bring on the Perrier-Joukt; this calls
for a bit of the bubbly.

Ainge has dealt our most valuable trading cards (with the exception of PP)
with a keen eye focused upon his infamous "Vision." Yet what position of
importance - PG, PF, C - has Danny yet to permanently fill after all this
maneuvering, all this disruption? I asked this before and one of
you answered that you felt these important voids will be filled through
the innate talent and future maturity of Banks, Hunter, and Perkins.
I disagree.

Banks sure is speedy but has a grating 'tude, a Bball IQ of about 85, and
narrow court vision which may or may not be expandable or even
coachable. By all accounts, Perkins is a great kid with a great 'tude,
but who knows if that will eventually translate into his becoming a
top NBA center.  Hunter is Hunter,  a 6 ft. 6 inch (He's shrinking by
the minute) one-dimensional rebounding machine who adds little
more to the court than a few "duhs."  I would rather have the more
well-rounded Songaila.

Now the development of yet three more first rounders threatens to
set us back even more years at a time when the casual Celt fan along
with many ticket-buying zealots have all but given up on this team.
Call it impatience with the poor misunderstood Ainge "Vision" -
the five-year plan of trading mediocrity for mediocrity while praying
that eventually a couple of darts hit the sweet spot on the draft target.

Ainge's hubris/arrogance of course goes way beyond that.  He and Wyc
and Pag(liuca) honestly assume that several years from now, no other
NBA team will be ahead of us in talent, coaching, or year-end record.
It all makes me want to scream, "Hey, Holy Trinity, there are no
guarantees.  Ask any aspiring actor, final success doesn't automatically
go hand-in-glove with years of sacrifice."

Egg


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