Re: Bulpett: Real Good News: C's After Barry

["Josh Ozersky" <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't like that trade at all.  You don't give
up a all-pro talent unless you are getting another
one in return.  Better to package Pierce for
Kobe, as per Mark's trade. I agree 100% on
Mihm, and would like to shoot Carroll for
not playing him more, and Ainge for not 
giving him a long-term shot.

Josh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Singh" <keltsfan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Bulpett: Real Good News: C's After Barry


> Mark,
> 
> Yes, he would be the best point guard of the three hands down and the
> more and more I watch this debacle of a team, the more I think a player
> of Barry's offensive abilities is needed, especially if the
> Celtics/Ainge do have aspirations of becoming a Sacramento Kings type of
> offensive team.  If the next head coach can motivate him to bring it
> most nights and he can be had without having to give up one of the core
> players or a 1st round pick, it would be a good trade. 
> 
> Why are folks despondent towards Mihm?  Yes he needs to work on his
> offensive game and is a bit foul prone at the moment but he's got above
> average potential and is only 24 years old. He's starting to come into
> his own albeit slowly. 
> 
> I've been toying around with trades and one that would interest me very
> much would be to trade Pierce to Chicago for Eddie Curry, Jamal
> Crawford, Eddie Robinson and Chicago's first round pick in the upcoming
> draft.   The Bulls get their bonafied All-Star, the Celtics get to
> promising young players both with question marks in terms of attitude,
> they take on the bad contract of Robinson for two more years as a way to
> entice Chicago, and they have the potential to gain a top five pick this
> summer. 
> 
> Ravi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Berry, Mark S
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:46 AM
> To: celtics@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Bulpett: Real Good News: C's After Barry
> 
> 
> He won't be playing shooting guard. He'll be playing point guard. We can
> debate whether or not he's a point guard, but that's the position he'll
> play in Boston. Ainge sees him as the big, shooting, passing point guard
> that will take control of the offense. I hope he's right. I love players
> like Brent Barry - unselfish and incredibly efficient. Is he a point
> guard? Is Mike James? Is Marcus Banks?
> 
> 
> 
> As for Juwan Howard, I'm relieved it isn't happening. Tammo, your post
> this morning pretty much sums up my feelings about it. I could
> understand it. I think you could make a case for it (I tried to
> yesterday), but my heart just isn't behind a trade for Juwan Howard
> unless there's a big-time sweetener involved. He'd be OK. He's not the
> answer, and we'd all be biding our time until they trade him for
> something better. Anyway, I'm glad it's not happening (assuming today's
> news is accurate).
> 
> 
> 
> Back to the Seattle deal ... It sounds like they might be expanding the
> trade. The available names in Seattle are Vladimir Radmanovic, Calvin
> Booth, Jerome James, Vitaly Potapenko and Flip Murray. Rad is an
> undersized, three-point shooting power forward. Most observers believe
> his best position is small forward, but he can't play there in Seattle
> because Rashard Lewis is there. He'd play power forward in Boston, too.
> Sounds like something between Walter and Antoine. Booth, Potapenko and
> James are overpaid centers. Seattle has been overpaying bad big men for
> a decade. James and Vitaly have one more year on their contracts. Booth
> has three more. For that reason, we don't want Booth. Murray is really
> interesting. He put up some huge numbers while Ray Allen was hurt
> earlier this season, but has struggled in a greatly reduced role off the
> bench. He's kind of a combo guard. I think he could be a Cuttino
> Mobley-like player off the bench.
> 
> 
> 
> From the Celtics' end, you have to think the Sonics are after Mihm. They
> need big men, especially cheap big men.
> 
> 
> 
> This does nothing for the glaring rebounding problems, but you have to
> take care of the problems one at a time. This one, in Ainge's opinion
> (and I agree), takes care of point guard. Let's hope it happens.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. Iverson ... NO, NO, NO, NO, NO ... But I wouldn't be opposed to a
> trade that routed him somewhere else and brought something back to the
> C's. Of course, this kind of deal would have to involve Pierce. Paul is
> really disappointing me. Last night the only time he seemed interested
> at all was when the ball was in his hands. He loafed up and down the
> floor, loafed on defense and continued his disturbing trend of leading
> by example exactly in the wrong direction. The Celtics' best player is
> acting disinterested, unmotivated and selfish. A team follows its best
> player. I thought Pierce was more competitive than that. Like I said,
> it's disappointing.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Tammo wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Well, I guess that teaches me not to respond to posts until I read the
> morning news.  With the glaring weaknesses we have on this team right
> now, I'm mystified as to why Ainge is so dead set on another shooting
> guard.  Oh well, I think we had better be willing to give up Welsch or
> Davis if we bring in Barry. We just don't have room for all three.