Re: getting the story straight

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, get it out of your system guys. Camp is starting. Will be plenty of
stuff to yak about. And get an agent, this could be a mini-series.

DanF


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil" <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: getting the story straight


> In the immortal words of the late, great Jack Benny.....
>
> WELL...
>
> Cecil  :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Snoopy the Celtics Beagle <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:54 AM
> Subject: getting the story straight
>
>
> > You know, I'd just started thinking how quiet it was, then Greg and
Shawn
> > piped up.  Time to make corrections, as neither of them seems to have
the
> > faintest idea what's going on.  I'd hate to think that anyone believes
the
> > garbage they're spouting, so here we go...
> >
> > At 11:20 PM 9/28/03 -0400, Shawn Niles wrote:
> > >I supported Greg privately. I'll do it now publicly. The extra e-mail
> > >thing for predictions is foolish. I know that Snoopy is happy with his
> > >little site but quite frankly there's not a whole lot of need for it. I
> > >figure it is something he does to try and pass the time in his
> retirement.
> >
> > Funny thing that the two public posts from you and Greg are the only
> > comments I've heard from ANYONE complaining about the site/predictions.
> In
> > Greg's case, I've made it clear to him I don't want any private e-mail
> from
> > him--excepting the predictions, should he choose to make one.
> >
> > I started the CBW in 2001, while I still worked a full time job.  My
> > "retirement", as you so patronizingly refer to it, is a result of a
> > combination of serious health problems, the details of which are none of
> > your business.
> >
> > As to the perceived lack of need, several people have complimented me on
> > making a site that doesn't take forever to load up on the computers of
> > those not blesses with high-speed connections, while still giving them
the
> > info they're looking for.  My game reviews--while not up to the
standards
> > of a Bill Cooper--are appreciated, based on e-mail received.  There's
been
> > over 3,000 visits to a site that I don't advertise beyond these
> > environs.  Yet if you check on Google for "Celtics Beagle", you'll find
my
> > site near the top of the list, several times.  One fellow even has it on
> > his list of sports-related links.
> >
> > >Thats fine and more power to him. But it does get annoying when we are
> > >directed to visit it in every one of his e-mails. And then he creates a
> > >separate e-mail for predictions to try and 'force' us in a way to use
the
> > >website. No thanks.
> >
> >
> > Wrong again.  I choose to add a signature line at the bottom of my
e-mail
> > asking people to visit my site.  You can ignore it, since it's at the
very
> > bottom of the post.
> >
> > I created a separate e-mail for predictions to make it easier to keep
> track
> > of the predictions.  Last season, I had to wade through a few long posts
> > with the prediction buried in a one line sentence somewhere.  Some
people
> > had to re-send predictions because the original e-mails never arrived on
> > the list.  In no way does sending me an e-mail "force" anyone to use my
> > website.  That's just silly, and I would have thought anyone with the
> > wherewithal to use a computer competently would know that.
> >
> > >If I make a prediction i'll do it as I have done in the past... right
> > >here. And then i'll probably forget all about it as I usually do, and I
> > >imagine most do , who lead regular lives.
> >
> > Among other things, your post is imaginative.  Those other things
include:
> > wrong, offensive, sloppily researched, uninformed, mistaken, infantile
and
> > pointless.
> >
> > If you had bothered to read all of my posts--you know, the part above
the
> > signature line you seem obsessed about--you's have known that I said
that
> > if people were determined to post their predictions here, they could.
It
> > just might take me longer to locate them and add them to the
> > list.  Likewise, had you bothered to pay attention to what you
ostensibly
> > read, you'd remember that last season, I posted the periodic prediction
> > updates to the list specifically for people who only have e-mail, but
not
> > website, access.
> >
> > Ok, having attempted to numerate the many errors in Shawn's post, we
move
> > on to Greg...
> >
> > >>From: "Greg Odegaard" <grodeg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: "Jim Metz" <jimmetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Celtics List"
> <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > >>Subject: Re: The Celtics Report  HOOPSWORLD.com  NBA News and
> > >>Information
> > >>Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:08:54 -0700
> > >>
> > >>...And thanks to those who have emailed supporting my comments about
the
> > >>preseason predictions emails/format.
> >
> > Presuming for a moment that you're not lying through your teeth--a
> > presumption that I do not consider a given--it's amazing that none of
> these
> > mysterious supporters have bothered to speak to me directly.  It's not
> like
> > I'm hard to contact, as Shawn so charmingly pointed out.
> >
> > >>Give it a rest until at least mid
> > >>October, and using the list in the past has worked quite fine, and
> lastly we
> > >>don't need weekly or worse updates.  No one cares that much, or maybe
> not.
> >
> >  From where I sit, looking back on positive e-mails dating back to last
> > season, you don't speak for everyone.  I've been pretty tolerant of your
> > particular brand of idiocy before, but you long since proved you're
> > incapable of behaving like an intelligent being.  Don't ever presume to
> > tell me what to do, you snivelling little pest.  You don't have the
> brains,
> > maturity, position or privilege of even attempting to decide anything
for
> > me.  There are only two people on these lists who have any authority to
> > dictate the occasions and/or content of my posts and those are the
> > listowners.
> >
> > I don't like you.  I don't want anything to do with you.  If it weren't
> for
> > my beliefs that the predictions should include everyone, I'd never let
> your
> > sorry name sully any part of my site, you've been such an imbecile.
Post
> > your prediction where you please, if you want.  Then, as far as me, or
my
> > site, is concerned, shut up.
> >
> > Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
> > Please visit the <http://www.celticsbeagle.net/>Celtics Beagle Website