Re: getting the story straight

[Cecil <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In the immortal words of the late, great Jack Benny.....

WELL...

Cecil  :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Snoopy the Celtics Beagle <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:54 AM
Subject: getting the story straight


> You know, I'd just started thinking how quiet it was, then Greg and Shawn
> piped up.  Time to make corrections, as neither of them seems to have the
> faintest idea what's going on.  I'd hate to think that anyone believes the
> garbage they're spouting, so here we go...
>
> At 11:20 PM 9/28/03 -0400, Shawn Niles wrote:
> >I supported Greg privately. I'll do it now publicly. The extra e-mail
> >thing for predictions is foolish. I know that Snoopy is happy with his
> >little site but quite frankly there's not a whole lot of need for it. I
> >figure it is something he does to try and pass the time in his
retirement.
>
> Funny thing that the two public posts from you and Greg are the only
> comments I've heard from ANYONE complaining about the site/predictions.
In
> Greg's case, I've made it clear to him I don't want any private e-mail
from
> him--excepting the predictions, should he choose to make one.
>
> I started the CBW in 2001, while I still worked a full time job.  My
> "retirement", as you so patronizingly refer to it, is a result of a
> combination of serious health problems, the details of which are none of
> your business.
>
> As to the perceived lack of need, several people have complimented me on
> making a site that doesn't take forever to load up on the computers of
> those not blesses with high-speed connections, while still giving them the
> info they're looking for.  My game reviews--while not up to the standards
> of a Bill Cooper--are appreciated, based on e-mail received.  There's been
> over 3,000 visits to a site that I don't advertise beyond these
> environs.  Yet if you check on Google for "Celtics Beagle", you'll find my
> site near the top of the list, several times.  One fellow even has it on
> his list of sports-related links.
>
> >Thats fine and more power to him. But it does get annoying when we are
> >directed to visit it in every one of his e-mails. And then he creates a
> >separate e-mail for predictions to try and 'force' us in a way to use the
> >website. No thanks.
>
>
> Wrong again.  I choose to add a signature line at the bottom of my e-mail
> asking people to visit my site.  You can ignore it, since it's at the very
> bottom of the post.
>
> I created a separate e-mail for predictions to make it easier to keep
track
> of the predictions.  Last season, I had to wade through a few long posts
> with the prediction buried in a one line sentence somewhere.  Some people
> had to re-send predictions because the original e-mails never arrived on
> the list.  In no way does sending me an e-mail "force" anyone to use my
> website.  That's just silly, and I would have thought anyone with the
> wherewithal to use a computer competently would know that.
>
> >If I make a prediction i'll do it as I have done in the past... right
> >here. And then i'll probably forget all about it as I usually do, and I
> >imagine most do , who lead regular lives.
>
> Among other things, your post is imaginative.  Those other things include:
> wrong, offensive, sloppily researched, uninformed, mistaken, infantile and
> pointless.
>
> If you had bothered to read all of my posts--you know, the part above the
> signature line you seem obsessed about--you's have known that I said that
> if people were determined to post their predictions here, they could.  It
> just might take me longer to locate them and add them to the
> list.  Likewise, had you bothered to pay attention to what you ostensibly
> read, you'd remember that last season, I posted the periodic prediction
> updates to the list specifically for people who only have e-mail, but not
> website, access.
>
> Ok, having attempted to numerate the many errors in Shawn's post, we move
> on to Greg...
>
> >>From: "Greg Odegaard" <grodeg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: "Jim Metz" <jimmetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Celtics List"
<Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: Re: The Celtics Report  HOOPSWORLD.com  NBA News and
> >>Information
> >>Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:08:54 -0700
> >>
> >>...And thanks to those who have emailed supporting my comments about the
> >>preseason predictions emails/format.
>
> Presuming for a moment that you're not lying through your teeth--a
> presumption that I do not consider a given--it's amazing that none of
these
> mysterious supporters have bothered to speak to me directly.  It's not
like
> I'm hard to contact, as Shawn so charmingly pointed out.
>
> >>Give it a rest until at least mid
> >>October, and using the list in the past has worked quite fine, and
lastly we
> >>don't need weekly or worse updates.  No one cares that much, or maybe
not.
>
>  From where I sit, looking back on positive e-mails dating back to last
> season, you don't speak for everyone.  I've been pretty tolerant of your
> particular brand of idiocy before, but you long since proved you're
> incapable of behaving like an intelligent being.  Don't ever presume to
> tell me what to do, you snivelling little pest.  You don't have the
brains,
> maturity, position or privilege of even attempting to decide anything for
> me.  There are only two people on these lists who have any authority to
> dictate the occasions and/or content of my posts and those are the
> listowners.
>
> I don't like you.  I don't want anything to do with you.  If it weren't
for
> my beliefs that the predictions should include everyone, I'd never let
your
> sorry name sully any part of my site, you've been such an imbecile.  Post
> your prediction where you please, if you want.  Then, as far as me, or my
> site, is concerned, shut up.
>
> Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
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