Re: Rebounding / Time of Possession

[Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i@xxxxxxxxx>]

Not to play Mom with you two, but you're both right
(though Josh is more right--he was first-born anyway).
 There's no doubt that our offense sucks right now. 
It revels anything that occurred during the Antoine
era.  In fact, I was having flashbacks to last year in
the second half of Wednesday's game, seeing Kedrick
waste himself standing in the corner waiting for the
kickout that never came.  It's obvious, and Josh is
right, that O'Brien either can't or hasn't coached
effective offensive basketball.  And it doesn't matter
if we can't rebound....

Ah, but it does matter (or so Kestas says), because if
we did rebound, O'Brien's shitty offense would be more
effective (more opportunities to throw it in the
ocean) and we would score more, have a better chance
to win, etc...  

Yet, in the end, Josh has the better, more proactive
answer to what ails us.  We need a better offense. 
It's that simple.  Hell with an offense that actually
moved and cut, the other team might have to actually
expend some energy on the defensive end, which would
in turn cause a decrease in the energy they use to
offensively rebound the basketball, which in turn
would allow us to get more defensive rebounds, which
would allow us to run, thus improving the offense...

It's all a big circle, with each area effecting
another.  The question is: which area positively
effects the other areas the most?  Unquestionably, it
is offense.  Here's the reason.  A good, team
orientated cutting, moving offense has positive
effects on other aspects of the game (tires the other
team out, gets everyone involved, which improves team
morale. etc...) EVEN WHEN ITS NOT PRODUCING (i.e.,
even when we're shooting poorly).  Conversely, the
positive effects of rebounding are only felt if we
ACTUALLY rebound.  In short, you're assured of the
pay-off if you run a passing, moving, team-orientated
offense, while, even if you drill rebounding
fundamentals every day in practice, you ARE NOT
ASSURED OF ANYTHING.

Ryan

--- Josh Ozersky <jozersky1@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I just don't buy it, Kestas.  I don't care how you
> many
> offensive rebounds you give up.  You should have
> more
> than 64 shots in a game.  The Celtics' offense blows
> just as much as it did in the Antoine era.
> 
> "There's never been a good fast-break team in the
> history of basketball at any
> level that wasn't a good defensive team and a good
> rebounding team. Right now,
> we are a good defensive team up until the time we
> challenge their first shot.
> After that, we have not gotten the job done.''  --
> Jim O'Brien
> 
> There have been hundreds of good fast break teams
> that couldn't rebound or
> play good defense:  Doug Moe's Nuggets teams, Loyola
> Marymount, the Don Nelson
> Golden State
> Warriors, on and on.  No team should ever score 71
> points
> in a game.  You can run off turnovers, you can run
> off the
> 25-30 defensive rebounds we had, you can at least
> get into
> the offense early by pushing the ball off made
> baskets.  The
> Celtics by every right should have won that game.


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