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Re: re:Kedrick is tying Danny's hands



Way, your Way lost again. You can't predict such things. I'll give you
credit for digging up the stat stuff and mathcups but your crystal ball is
very dim...

DanF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: re: re:Kedrick is tying Danny's hands


> As regards the Hornets game, remember people they were missing Mashburn.
> Healthy Mashburn = NO blowout.
> Ray
>
>
> > ** Original Subject: re:Kedrick is tying Danny's hands
> > ** Original Sender: Tammo29@xxxxxxx
> > ** Original Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:38:10 -0800 (PST)
>
> > >>>>Finally, I'm going to give Obie a mulligan on the NO game, but I'd
better
> > see a trend toward the style of the opening game tomorrow night, and not
> > toward the style we saw in NO. I know Josh was encouraged because it was
a
> > close game, on the road, and the third game in four nights. True enough.
> > <<<<<<<<
> >
> > I agree with Josh there.  I think last years team loses that game by 20
> > points.  Instead, we had stretches were we matched them shot, stretches
were we
> > made some stops and we were in it till the end.
> >
> >
> > >>>>But watching it was discouraging because they went back to last
year's
> > style of
> > trying to force it to Pierce, who then started forcing shots. There
wasn't
> > much ball movement. They didn't recognize any mismatches. And the
rotation
> > was shortened quite a bit with the emphasis on Blount and McCarty
(Walter
> > looks as bad as he ever has right now). <<<<<<<
> >
> > My thoughts exactly.  I've never been a huge O'Brien fan.  I think games
like
> > Saturday nights just magnify his lack of offensive ingenuity.  He's just
> > so......vanilla.
> > Is there any question who was the better coach out there Saturday?
Floyd
> > changed the tempo of the game with pressure on the ball.  Floyd dictated
how the
> > game would be played on the Hornets offenisive end by playing a three
guard
> > offense for a good portion of the game and we never tried to exploit it
at the
> > other end.  We never tried to force a change ourselves by just pouning
it down
> > low, play after play.  We had an advantage in height and numbers and
never
> > once used it.  Magloire was in early foul trouble and we never took
advantage.
> > West, a rookie,  was playing Baker for a stretch and we never went at
him.
> > Why?
> >
> > >>>>But they have to find ways to handle this pressure. I was really
> > disappointed to see less and less of the high-low offense in the last
two
> > games. They have big men perfectly suited to that attack, but a little
> > pressure on the ball seemingly took them out of that altogether. <<<<<<<
> >
> >
> > I don't understand why Raef and Vin aren't on the floor together more
often.
> > They would be perfect for the high low game.  I think O'Brien puts his
> > lineups together with defense in mind, and I can understand that I
suppose.  He
> > thinks Baker/Blount and Battie/LaFrentz give the best combinations of
offense and
> > defense.  Still, it wouldn't hurt to mix things up a little bit.
Especially
> > down the stretch when you need points.
> >
> >
> > >>>And the way they were trying to force it to Pierce when he was being
> > overplayed was
> > embarrassing. What about a down screen? Or using Pierce as the pick man
on a
> > pick-and-roll? It's like Obie forgot Basketball 101. There are plenty of
> > ways to get a guy the ball when the defense is overplaying like
that.<<<<
> >
> > More of the same basic vanilla.  I think O'Brien called his number every
> > single play down the stretch and the Hornets just weren't going to let
that
> > happen.  Forget the double teams on the sidelines 23 feet from the
basket.  Forget
> > all the over playing and denial.  How much time did we waste just trying
to get
> > him the ball?  Yet O'Brien made no changes.  I just find that
mind-boggling.
> >
> > If you want more proof as to how unimaginative O'Brien is, just look at
the
> > quotes from James about the last play against Memphis.
> > Get James the ball, clear out.  Let him go one on one and everyone else
get
> > to the baseline for a possible rebound.  Wow!
> > Ok, so it worked, this time.  I give Mike James all the credit in the
world.
> > But you would think that we could have come up with something better
than
> > that for the last play of the game.
> >
> >
> > TAM
>
> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- **