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Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
Just that we had our share of bad picks also.
DanF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> Huh? You lost me on that one.
>
>
> >From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:33:35 -0400
> >
> >The only thing that surprises me about your list is that *WE* didn't
take
> >them. It's not like the Celts of old to let dummies slip through.
> >
> >DanF
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> >
> >
> > > All this talk about West having something up his sleeve really bothers
> >me.
> > > West has made plenty of mistakes over the years. The thing about West
is
> >he
> > > is never afraid to take a risk. And so when a pick works out, like
Kobe,
> >it
> > > makes him seem like some kind of genious. But no one ever brings up
his
> > > failed draft picks.
> > >
> > > Sam Jacobson in 1998
> > > George Lynch in 1993
> > > David Rivers in 1988
> > > Ken Barlow in 1986
> > > Earl Jones in 1984
> > > Mike Mcgee in 1981
> > >
> > > Even some of the others haven't been anything more than servicable
> >players.
> > >
> > > Devean George in 1999
> > > Derek Fisher in 1996
> > > Eddie Jones in 1994
> > > Anthony Peeler in 1992
> > > Elden Campbell 1n 1990
> > > Vlade Divac in 1989
> > > AC Green in 1985
> > >
> > > I guess my point is Jerry West is not some genious in the sense that
any
> > > team that makes a deal with him is getting screwed. I'm sick of
hearing
> > > that. The C's got a guy that many thought of as a lottery pick as well
> >as
> >a
> > > prospect who was also picked to be a first rounder and who could
become
> >very
> > > good for two guys who were thought of as 2nd rounders at best.
> > >
> > > Here's an idea... maybe Jerry West is the one that got screwed in
this
> > > deal? Anyone think of that? Or are you too busy trying to figure out
an
> > > angle to prove that Ainge got taken to the cleaners?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> > > >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:45:52 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Because we're dealing with West there very well may be a rat
somewhere.
> > > >Unless............he's getting (got) dementia who knows . There's
> >probably
> > > >a
> > > >mulligan in the deal somewhere.
> > > >
> > > >Fore,
> > > >DanF
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <Eggcentric@xxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:42 AM
> > > >Subject: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have never seen Banks, Perkins, or Dahntay Jones play, but am
> >quite
> > > > > familiar with the assets/liabilities of Troy Bell having closely
> > > >followed
> > > > > Boston College. Much as I appreciate Bell's college play and
> >character,
> > > > > I am afraid he will be yet another 6 ft. SG-PG pro tweener.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have high respect for Jerry West, but cannot understand his
moves
> > > > > in this draft. He obviously prefers BELL TO BANKS or he would
have
> >just
> > > > > stuck with Banks at #13 and still easily obtained his man Dahntay
> >(rated
> > > > > a #40-50 pick) at #27. Put another way, if West so liked Bell
over
> > > >Banks,
> > > > > why didn't he simply draft Bell at #13 and Jones at #27 instead of
> > > > > having to trade for them? It would have saved his team 150 phone
> >calls
> > > > > at .07 per minute and $29,500 on salaries... not much but every
> >little
> > > >bit
> > > > > counts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a future consideration owed West for agreeing to draft
> >Banks
> > > >and
> > > > > turn him over to us?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rookie salary scale:
> > > > > #16 $1,071,200
> > > > > #20 $886,400
> > > > > Total: $1,957,600
> > > > >
> > > > > #13 $1,249,500
> > > > > #27 $678,600
> > > > > Total: $1,928,100
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hoping that Banks will be all that Ainge thinks he can be.
> >Maybe
> > > > > Banks will prove to be a tasty hors d'oeuvre instead of the tree
> >toad
> > > > > that many, aside from Ainge, think he is. Maybe there is tons of
> > > >untapped
> > > > > luscious to him, but early on, based upon his UNLV play and prior
to
> >the
> > > > > Ainge rumor (denied to the very end by both Ainge and Bank's
agent)
> > > >Banks
> > > > > was considered about the 8th best PG in the draft. Like a miracle
> > > >capable
> > > > > of staggering sextillions of infidels (Celt fans), without
workouts,
> >his
> > > > > stock kept RISING ON NUTTIN giving us the impression that we have
> > > > > drafted a hot one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I only wonder if Bank's alleged speed, ''D'', drive and dish,
> > > >questionable
> > > > > perimeter shooting, and questionable character will ever equal his
> > > > > ''hype'' strategy. What will Danny do if Obie stubbornly prefers
> >the
> > > >solid
> > > > > but unspectacular Bremer to him? I am hearing rumors that Banks
is
> > > > > another Joe Forte personality, but if he can translate his bravado
> >into
> > > > > deeds of beauty on the court, then no problem
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this draft merely full of marble before it blooms of statues?
We
> > > > > won't know the results of this particular embryo draft for years
to
> > > > > come what with such parity and confusion after the first ten
locks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I am in the gutter looking at the stars, but I feel Ainge
has
> > > > > at least addressed the right questions (PG and Center). I can
only
> > > > > now hope Banks and Perkins will eventually prove to be the right
> > > > > answers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Egg
> > >
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