From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:33:35 -0400
The only thing that surprises me about your list is that *WE* didn't take them. It's not like the Celts of old to let dummies slip through.
DanF
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Celtics@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> All this talk about West having something up his sleeve really bothers me.
> West has made plenty of mistakes over the years. The thing about West is
he
> is never afraid to take a risk. And so when a pick works out, like Kobe,
it
> makes him seem like some kind of genious. But no one ever brings up his
> failed draft picks.
>
> Sam Jacobson in 1998
> George Lynch in 1993
> David Rivers in 1988
> Ken Barlow in 1986
> Earl Jones in 1984
> Mike Mcgee in 1981
>
> Even some of the others haven't been anything more than servicable
players.
>
> Devean George in 1999
> Derek Fisher in 1996
> Eddie Jones in 1994
> Anthony Peeler in 1992
> Elden Campbell 1n 1990
> Vlade Divac in 1989
> AC Green in 1985
>
> I guess my point is Jerry West is not some genious in the sense that any
> team that makes a deal with him is getting screwed. I'm sick of hearing
> that. The C's got a guy that many thought of as a lottery pick as well as
a
> prospect who was also picked to be a first rounder and who could become
very
> good for two guys who were thought of as 2nd rounders at best.
>
> Here's an idea... maybe Jerry West is the one that got screwed in this
> deal? Anyone think of that? Or are you too busy trying to figure out an
> angle to prove that Ainge got taken to the cleaners?
>
>
> >From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:45:52 -0400
> >
> >Because we're dealing with West there very well may be a rat somewhere.
> >Unless............he's getting (got) dementia who knows . There's
probably
> >a
> >mulligan in the deal somewhere.
> >
> >Fore,
> >DanF
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Eggcentric@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:42 AM
> >Subject: West/Ainge - puzzles within a puzzle
> >
> >
> > > I have never seen Banks, Perkins, or Dahntay Jones play, but am quite
> > > familiar with the assets/liabilities of Troy Bell having closely
> >followed
> > > Boston College. Much as I appreciate Bell's college play and
character,
> > > I am afraid he will be yet another 6 ft. SG-PG pro tweener.
> > >
> > > I have high respect for Jerry West, but cannot understand his moves
> > > in this draft. He obviously prefers BELL TO BANKS or he would have
just
> > > stuck with Banks at #13 and still easily obtained his man Dahntay
(rated
> > > a #40-50 pick) at #27. Put another way, if West so liked Bell over
> >Banks,
> > > why didn't he simply draft Bell at #13 and Jones at #27 instead of
> > > having to trade for them? It would have saved his team 150 phone
calls
> > > at .07 per minute and $29,500 on salaries... not much but every little
> >bit
> > > counts.
> > >
> > > Is there a future consideration owed West for agreeing to draft Banks
> >and
> > > turn him over to us?
> > >
> > > Rookie salary scale:
> > > #16 $1,071,200
> > > #20 $886,400
> > > Total: $1,957,600
> > >
> > > #13 $1,249,500
> > > #27 $678,600
> > > Total: $1,928,100
> > >
> > > I am hoping that Banks will be all that Ainge thinks he can be. Maybe
> > > Banks will prove to be a tasty hors d'oeuvre instead of the tree toad
> > > that many, aside from Ainge, think he is. Maybe there is tons of
> >untapped
> > > luscious to him, but early on, based upon his UNLV play and prior to
the
> > > Ainge rumor (denied to the very end by both Ainge and Bank's agent)
> >Banks
> > > was considered about the 8th best PG in the draft. Like a miracle
> >capable
> > > of staggering sextillions of infidels (Celt fans), without workouts,
his
> > > stock kept RISING ON NUTTIN giving us the impression that we have
> > > drafted a hot one.
> > >
> > > I only wonder if Bank's alleged speed, ''D'', drive and dish,
> >questionable
> > > perimeter shooting, and questionable character will ever equal his
> > > ''hype'' strategy. What will Danny do if Obie stubbornly prefers the
> >solid
> > > but unspectacular Bremer to him? I am hearing rumors that Banks is
> > > another Joe Forte personality, but if he can translate his bravado
into
> > > deeds of beauty on the court, then no problem
> > >
> > > Is this draft merely full of marble before it blooms of statues? We
> > > won't know the results of this particular embryo draft for years to
> > > come what with such parity and confusion after the first ten locks.
> > >
> > > Maybe I am in the gutter looking at the stars, but I feel Ainge has
> > > at least addressed the right questions (PG and Center). I can only
> > > now hope Banks and Perkins will eventually prove to be the right
> > > answers.
> > >
> > > Egg
>
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