Re: No more excuses

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Facts are facts. Congratulations. There are others on this list that think
the moon is made of green cheese. They also will come to some sad
conclusions with 30+ games left..........sadly.

DanF

----- Original Message -----
From: <Celtic4Hire@aol.com>
To: <celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:49 PM
Subject: No more excuses


> Yesterday was a sea-change day for me. The Seattle game was an opportunity
to
> throw away all of the excuses. PP down and Battie down and we need
> athleticism and scoring. Obie's solution is to not play Vin or Brown in
the
> second half  when they really needed them. I am now ready to join the
ranks
> of questioning all moves from the 2001 draft on. It has been a 1 and 1/2
and
> it is reasonable to think critically at this point, IMO. Some already have
> come to this conclusion so this is nothing new to them. It is just my
time.
> My reasons follow:
>
> It is simple. We had Kenny and a backup center (VP) and 3 2001 no. 1 picks
(2
> of them lottery) and a 2002 pick. We now have 2 guard in a one's body
three
> point shooter in Delk, a backup center who is the 6th or 7th offensive
option
> who averages 18 minutes a game and a guy who doesn't play at all. That is
it.
> Based on the pure statistical facts and that Obie has indicated that this
is
> going to change, how could anyone not come to the conclusion that this was
a
> pure disaster?
>
> I put the reasons WHY the players that Wallace has gotten have performed
so
> poorly  purely on Obie's shoulders with the exception of Forte who was a
pure
> bust mistake. But a big part of the loss in value was the horrible JJ for
> Rogers and Delk trade. Wallace must be blamed for that and ultimately he
is
> overall responsible. Obie is responsible for not developing his assets but
> ultimately, if Wallace is getting players that Obie refuses to play or
> develop, then there is something wrong in the GM/coach relationship. Since
> the GM is supposed to be above the coach, then ultimately it is his
> responsibiltity.
>
> The facts don't lie. Based on last night's game, we have nothing to show
for
> Kenny and 4 no. 1 assets. Delk is worth not worth anymore than a Jimmy
> Jackson free agent type, Vin is debit at his salary base on how Obie uses
him
> (you could consider his contract as goodwill ;>)). I don't think Kedrick
will
> be used the rest of this year. At this rate, he could only develop into a
> partial performer next year. Even if he did breakout in his fourth year,
he
> would be dumping us at first chance. This isn't what you expect out of a
> lottery pick, a return four years from now. You can sign someone else's
free
> agent four years from now. Who knows what you got then.
>
> I personally feel both Vin and Brown can be valuable members to this
flawed
> team. But Obie had the perfect chance last night and he showed what he
> thinks. Therefore, someone must be held accountable. Either Wallace
totally
> screwed up every time, Wallace is partially to blame and the rest is Obie
for
> not developing or playing  or there is something wrong in the GM and coach
> relationship. No more excuses. I no longer think things are going to
change
> with Vin and Brown the way Obie is playing them. We are past the half way
> point....
>
> DJessen33