Re: Vin Baker

["Troy Hash" <troyhash@xxxxxxx>]

Not sure, but I think the point is/was, that Chris Wallace is an idiot and
has proven it over and over and over.  We may be stuck with Baker, but we
shouldn't be stuck with Wallace.  Surely, after spending 360 million $$$ the
new owners realize that and will can him the very second this season is over
which is more & more looking like the 82nd game of the season!!!  Troy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@JUSTICE.GC.CA>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: Vin Baker


> No offense Mark, but what is the purpose of bringing this up?  We know the
Baker trade isn't working and we know that Wallace gambled and lost.  We
know all this.  If it is just venting and frustration, okay then.
>
> I saw some excellent teamwork last night and was very impressed at their
willingness to move the ball to the open man.  Like it or not we are going
to shoot the 3 at an abnormal rate.  Obie has rolled the dice also in this
respect, obviously figuring that between Delk, Pierce, Walker, Bremer,
Shammond and Waltah, they may hit 40% of them.  For the most part, our
inside game is virtually nonexistent, save for alleyoops last night to
Battie, so I can see why the coaching staff feels the need for the outside
game, especially Conner who was a long range bomber himself.  I still would
rather see us try to pound the ball inside.  That is my preference.  But I
don't coach this team.
>
> Cecil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berry, Mark S [mailto:berrym@BATTELLE.ORG]
> Sent: February 06, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: 'celtics@igtc.com'
> Subject: Vin Baker
>
>
> Lots of good stuff in the Globe and Herald today, including the first
really
> critical, on-target criticism yet of Chris Wallace (by Peter May).
> Apparently at some point, things become so obvious you can't avoid them
any
> longer.
>
> I'm going to talk about Baker because he overshadows the game last night
> (nice win, though). Do you see now why O'Brien didn't make him any more of
a
> focal point than he did? Do you see why he made Vin a bit player? The
minute
> you start to rely on Vin Baker, you're finished. I'm disgusted with the
guy.
> Apparently there was speculation yesterday that Baker was contemplating
> retirement. We should be so lucky. We're stuck with this embarrassment for
> three more years after this. There is no trade out there. There is no
> contract that is worse. There is nothing to do. At this point, I'm hoping
> they remove him from the rotation completely and actively encourage him to
> retire. Maybe that's harsh, but the guy is stealing money.
>
> The only person I'm more disgusted with is Wallace, of course. Baker is
here
> only because Wallace brought him here. Wallace made that choice. It's
really
> mind-boggling. I honestly can't remember a dumber trade in the history of
> sports. What a disaster. He has condemned the Celtics to the worst fate
you
> can suffer in the NBA-mediocrity. They're good enough to make the
playoffs,
> but we all know they're not good enough to win a championship. They've
been
> lapped by the Nets and Pacers, and other teams in the East are closing the
> gap. There won't be anymore high draft picks. There's no cap room. What
you
> see is what you get. Get used to 45 wins and early playoff exits. Maybe
> that's enough for some fans, who were so tired of the years of losing. But
> it's not enough. Not for the Boston Celtics. They play for championships.
>
> It takes the fun out of games like last night. You can enjoy them for what
> they are, but you always know how this ultimately is going to end.
>
> Mark