re: Why Ray's Wrong (again) about a Kidd trade

[wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

How am I wrong, when I said Ainge would make an offer?
I never said New Jersey would take it. What I said was if the Celtics
make the Best Offer, then NJ would do it. Similar to the Mavs making the best
offer for Walker.  With NJ in blow-up mode, I don't think trading a player
within the division or conference is going to matter as much as securing the 
greatest amount of talent.

Now, whether the Celtics can put together a better offer than the other teams,
that part is questionable.  San Antonio certainly has a leg up on the
competition; Utah with about $30 million in Cap Space, also
could take on much of NJ's bad contracts and provide a quality point
guard and players in return. The Clippers have cap space and talent
and need a PG too.

And if Pierce can co-exist with Walker, I'm sure Kidd won't be a problem. 

Ray


> ** Original Subject: Why Ray's Wrong (again) about a Kidd trade
> ** Original Sender: Mark Piotrowski <markp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> ** Original Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:17:42 -0800 (PST)

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> Nice try Ray, but I'd be willing to put good money on the fact that if 
> the Nets trade Kidd -- like Marc Stein suggests in his ESPN column -- 
> that San Antonio winds up with him (though Sacramento might be able to 
> put together a nice package too), not Boston.
> 
> First of all there's no way they trade him within the division -- even 
> better to get him out of the conference.
> 
> Second, being under the cap -- like San Antonio wil be this summer 
> again -- the Spurs don't have to match salaries.  i expect the Spurs to 
> off Parker + Horry + Bowen (exp. contracts to get close to Kidd's $$) 
> and a pick or 2 for Kidd + Mourning's contract + 3rd player (i'm sure 
> they'd like R. Jefferson, but might have to settle for Luscious Harris 
> or Aaron Williams.
> 
> Third, i would imagine that any deal for Kidd will have to include 
> Mourning's contract -- so for the sake of argument the C's would have 
> to offere something like:
> 
> Banks
> Perkins
> Davis
> Mihm + Stewart's expiring contracts
> 
> You could argue something like
> 
> Banks
> Baker
> Davis
> plus a couple #1s
> 
> but I really don't thik NJ would do that one.  Either way I think its 
> doubtful that Ainge gives away everything he's added this year for 
> Jason Kidd.
> 
> Finally -- as much as i love Kidd's play (and as much as I hate they've 
> been the ones to send us home the last 2 years) I dont' know that 
> Pierce would be wild about (a) sharing the team and (b) sharing the 
> team with such a hated rival.  maybe i'm worng, but I don't  see ti.
> 
> - (the other) mark

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