Re: What's up Doc Stern ?

["Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@hotmail.com>]

If Cousy bled green, he would never make comments like that, no matter how 
he feels, and especially not during a Celts playoff run. If he feels that 
way, he might as well stay away. Who needs em?


>From: "Greg Odegaard" <grodeg@kalama.com>
>To: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@hotmail.com>, 
><birdwl@earthlink.net>,<Celtics@igtc.com>
>Subject: Re: What's up Doc Stern ?
>Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:24:50 -0700
>
>OK I did find it and though he does give high praise to the "style" of play
>from the Nets, I can't find anything negative about the Celtics. Just the
>opposite. Where does all these sour grapes come from?
>Sad given the wins of late. Enjoy,
>Greg
>
>Thursday, May 23
>Updated: May 23, 1:23 PM ET
>
>Cousy admires the way Kidd runs the Nets
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>By Adrian Wojnarowski
>Special to ESPN.com
>
>EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The Boston Celtics clutch Bob Cousy's heart and
>history, the franchise's rise out of the rubble restoring rightful order to
>his Memorial Day Weekend. From his Worcester, Mass., home, he's making the
>short drive down the Mass Turnpike bound for the gymnasium with 16
>championship banners, with Red and Russell sitting within the screaming
>sellout.
>
>Bob Cousy was blessed with great peripheral vision, just like a certain 
>Nets
>point guard.
>These are old times for the Cooz, bringing him back 50 years to when the
>game's greatest dynasty was born with him bringing the ball down the court.
>Between his legs and around his back, Cousy passed to Havlicek and Bird, to
>Pierce and Walker, to Games 3 and 4 of these Eastern Conference finals at
>the Fleet Center.
>
>"As a 73-year-old, it isn't easy to get animated anymore, but this team has
>got my attention," Cousy said the other day. "This Celtics team has got my
>blood flowing."
>
>As hard as Cousy roots for them, as badly as he wishes for that
>Lakers-Celtics NBA Finals, the means to Boston's ends leave him a little
>torn, a little longing for the old days. The Celtics are working
>relentlessly to strip the beauty out of this basketball, slow these games 
>to
>an unwatchable grind and make the Game 2 thud, thud, thud of 117 missed
>shots the soundtrack of this series.
>
>If the Celtics must make everything so murky for victory, so be it. But why
>does everyone play this way now? Cousy doesn't love his basketball down and
>dirty, but fast and furious. There was a time Cousy never could've imagined
>thinking this way, but it's true and he believes it and so: Why can't a
>little of the ne'er-do-well New Jersey Nets rub off on the rest of
>basketball -- even the Celtics?
>
>"When we were winning our championships, we had six plays with two options
>on each one," Cousy said. "Red loved it if I never called a set play the
>whole 48 minutes because that meant we blew someone's doors off in the
>transition game. With the sustained intensity of the defense in the
>playoffs, you can stop any half-court offense with fairly even matched
>teams. But it doesn't matter if the Celtics spend three weeks working on
>stopping the Nets, if you've got Jason Kidd running, you're never going to
>stop them. Never.
>
>"I'm not talking the kind of running in the school yard and All-Star Games.
>I'm talking about a controlled running -- what just four or five teams out
>of everyone in the league do."
>
>He sighs over the telephone, wishing this wasn't the case. The Celtics are
>clearly his heritage, but Kidd and these Nets, they're the living, 
>breathing
>legacy of the way those old Celtics played the game. From fast breaks and
>scoring balance, to the backdoor layups out of that Princeton passing
>offense Pete Carril borrowed liberally from Auerbach, to the planet's best
>point guard playing the position like Cousy invented it, these Nets are a
>throwback.
>
>When they're crisp, they're a clinic. When Kidd has the Nets running, they
>play a brand of basketball determined to bring a tear to a great old point
>guard's eye.
>
>  " It's complete crap that you can't run in the playoffs. You can develop
>that style. The Nets have done it. "
>   - Bob Cousy
>
>"It's complete crap that you can't run in the playoffs," Cousy said. "You
>can develop that style. The Nets have done it. Everyone else will walk that
>sucker up the floor. If we all agree the players just don't pass that well
>today, then what's to say if they're going to pass the ball five or six
>times to get a shot that they're not going to screw things up even more?"
>
>"I'll go to my grave not understanding why basketball has come to this. Has
>the game passed me by that much? Has it? Well, I don't believe it has."
>
>Kidd is responsible for turning the biggest joke in basketball into
>something scintillating. And when he speaks of his influences, always two
>names tumble out of him: Magic Johnson and Cousy. They played that right
>way, Kidd believes. They played for everyone else. They played for 
>winning's
>sake.
>
>Cousy doesn't watch much regular-season basketball these days -- "Guys mail
>it in too often," he says -- but he watches Kidd when he gets the chance. 
>He
>never takes his eyes off him. Sometimes, he hopes the young players are
>watching him, too, understanding a point guard can completely control the
>game even when shooting is the last thing on his mind. This was true a half
>century ago and it's true today.
>
>"He's a throwback," Cousy said of Kidd. "He's out there creating and
>developing for other people. He makes everyone else around him better and
>there's no highest compliment to what we're all about. Not too many 
>function
>anymore as such. I was blessed with peripheral vision, just like Jason and
>Magic, and that's a tremendous advantage."
>
>There goes the Cooz, using "We" when he speaks of the New Jersey Nets 
>before
>making his way to the FleetCenter this weekend. Yes, Cousy always had that
>great vision on the floor and he's never lost it. He's always going to go
>with his love, his history, and cheer that team of his that's made his
>Memorial Day weekend matter again. Yet, Bob Cousy longs for something 
>beyond
>the glory of the Celtics -- the glory of the game -- and so it truly won't
>be old times in Boston until Jason Kidd brings his team to town, until
>they're running right out of those 1950s and 60s, and right into the heart
>of an old point guard.
>
>Adrian Wojnarowski, a sports columnist for The Record (northern N.J.), is a
>regular contributor to ESPN.com.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@hotmail.com>
>To: <birdwl@earthlink.net>; <Celtics@igtc.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:34 PM
>Subject: Re: What's up Doc Stern ?
>
>
> > Let me add another ex-celtic to the list of ex-celtics who do not seem 
>to
>be
> > doing their part during these playoffs... Mr. Cousy. He has been nothing
>but
> > negative towards the C's. And has gone out of his way to praise the 
>Nets.
>I
> > have only two words for messr's Bird and Cousy....   Screw em!
> >
> >
> > >From: bird <birdwl@earthlink.net>
> > >To: Celtics@igtc.com
> > >Subject: Re: What's up Doc Stern ?
> > >Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:04:13 -0700
> > >
> > >>From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
> > >>
> > >>Hey, I'm with you, they don't come any more loyal than Tommy H. He has
> > >>given
> > >>his quart of blood for the Celtic organization. Can't say that of
>certain
> > >>other Celtic retirees.
> > >
> > >Yet another reference to "Larry Bird's not at the Fleet and it's so
> > >terrible!"?  When are we going to see the end of the beating to this 
>dead
> > >horse?
> > >
> > >The keys to Boston''s win this afternoon are going to be playing good
> > >defense, making good passes for easy scores, and the home crowd.  *Not*
> > >whether or not Larry Joe Bird or Satch Sanders or Hank Finkel show up 
>at
> > >the Fleet.  It's about what happens on the court by the guys who are in
> > >Celtic uniforms *now*, not twenty years ago.  See, that was then, this 
>is
> > >now.
> > >
> > >Bird
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shawn Niles" <shizzjr@hotmail.com>
>To: <birdwl@earthlink.net>; <Celtics@igtc.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:34 PM
>Subject: Re: What's up Doc Stern ?
>
>
> > Let me add another ex-celtic to the list of ex-celtics who do not seem 
>to
>be
> > doing their part during these playoffs... Mr. Cousy. He has been nothing
>but
> > negative towards the C's. And has gone out of his way to praise the 
>Nets.
>I
> > have only two words for messr's Bird and Cousy....   Screw em!
> >
> >
> > >From: bird <birdwl@earthlink.net>
> > >To: Celtics@igtc.com
> > >Subject: Re: What's up Doc Stern ?
> > >Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:04:13 -0700
> > >
> > >>From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
> > >>
> > >>Hey, I'm with you, they don't come any more loyal than Tommy H. He has
> > >>given
> > >>his quart of blood for the Celtic organization. Can't say that of
>certain
> > >>other Celtic retirees.
> > >
> > >Yet another reference to "Larry Bird's not at the Fleet and it's so
> > >terrible!"?  When are we going to see the end of the beating to this 
>dead
> > >horse?
> > >
> > >The keys to Boston''s win this afternoon are going to be playing good
> > >defense, making good passes for easy scores, and the home crowd.  *Not*
> > >whether or not Larry Joe Bird or Satch Sanders or Hank Finkel show up 
>at
> > >the Fleet.  It's about what happens on the court by the guys who are in
> > >Celtic uniforms *now*, not twenty years ago.  See, that was then, this 
>is
> > >now.
> > >
> > >Bird
> >
> >
> >
> >
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