Re: Very Difficult Times Ahead

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

So does this mean that the problem isn't that noted dickhead Jim O'Brien?

Cecil


----- Original Message -----
From: "bird" <birdwl@earthlink.net>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:02 PM
Subject: re: Very Difficult Times Ahead


> > From: "Ron Pasik" <quinielabox@hotmail.com>
>
> > Lets get to the heart of the matter here - Antione Walker and his
hideous
> > selfishness. I never wanted to admit Pitino being right but I think he
was
> > right about trying to trade Toine. For every game Toine pulls out for
us,
> >  he
> > costs about 3 more in bad basketball decisions. Let's face it, I don't
> > think
> > its working for him here in Boston. I've had to defend him throughout
his
> > young career on the ESPN message boards. But he wants to be out there
for
> > 48
> > minutes and touch the ball every time down. The rest of the Celtics
> > players
> > and especially Paul Pierce has suffered..... Joe Johnson, Chauncey
> > Billups,
> > David Wesley, Rick Fox, Ron Mercer, Andrew Declerq, and Andre Miller
could
> > have been here if Pitino had been successful at trading Toine and not
> > renouncing and retaining picks. Furthermore, Rick would still be
coaching
> > this
> > team because they would be doing better. Obie has turned into a puppet
> > coach
> > and allowing Antione to run the team with his "court savvy"
> >
> > I challenge each and every member to refute my argument that this team
> > will
> > not improve until Toine is traded.
>
> I'm sorry, Q, but you don't have an "argument" here to refute.  You have
> an opinion.  Can't refute that, it's your opinion and you're entitled.
> But you never give any reasons, and reasons make up an argument.  The only
> thing that comes close is "But he wants to be out there for 48 minutes and
> touch the ball every time down" and somehow other players have suffered
> because of this.  I don't see it.  I like the fact that he wants to be out
> there for 48 minutes.  As one of the two only real star-level talents we
> have, he ought to be out there, touching the ball quite a bit.  What's the
> problem?  I want he and Pierce to dominate the game: that's what got us
> our early success.  Now, when Pierce is trying to spread it around, we
> have problems.
>
> Bird