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Fwd: Celtics' Stuff Re: Subject: Wrapping it up and looking ahead (long)



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> From: lancejacob@attbi.com
> Date: Thu Jun 06, 2002  06:10:27 AM US/Eastern
> To: Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Celtics' Stuff (unknown)
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> In a message dated 06/06/2002 5:23:26 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, bostonceltics17@yahoo.com writes:
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> Now that I have seen the Cs for myself, I really feel
> that with the way our offense is
> structure (with Antione/Pierce dominating the ball), a
> creative, dribbling, drive n dish
> point guard will be under utilised, thus a waste. Dare I
> say, a Tony Delk (with improved
> ball handling skills) could do the job, imo. Just like
> the old days with DJ.
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> This seems to be a recurring theme--we don't need a
> point guard because of the style of the offense.
>
> Welcome to chicken-and-egg.  O'Brien's been candid in
> saying that the 3pt shot was necessary based on our
> roster.  He's saying that we don't have a big rebounder,
> and we don't have a backup point guard who could pass
> worth a damn.  The ECS indicated one of two things--good
> defense would generate our "classic" offense, or that
> our offense needed an overhaul.
>
> I go with the latter, as do most of us, because Obie had
> very little opportunity to be pleased with the offense,
> although the defense was effective at times, the Celts
> rarely scored well. 
>
> We've batted around the difference in what Obie says and
> what he believes.  He's learned from the master not to
> lie, but to phrase his thoughts only in positives.  Some
> of us believe that he inherited a team of guys who had
> talent, but the most talented players were uncoachable. 
> Thus, EWill became the coach's link to the players,
> Harter installed a defense this year, and the results
> gave impetus to bring Delk/Rogers to the team for the
> extra offense that these guys were known for as second
> stringers.  This was NOT in the original plan for the
> season, but the BT saw an oppy to get playoff experience
> with the trade and we know the results.
>
> The team is obviously a work in progress, and the
> biggest work is to get the captains to accept less
> control of the ball.  All the Kenny bashers can scream
> about his weaknesses, but the team was far better when
> he was on the court--and not as a scoring threat.  Kenny
> could determine when the captains got the ball, (it was
> a shame Vitaly didn't play, he and Kenny had some nice
> pick-and-pops) and Delk/Strick were entirely shoot-first
> or hand-to-the-captains players.  This caused the
> stagnation we all saw.
>
> This Fall, I contend that Obie will institute a real
> offense and ensure that another point guard is here
> besides Delk/Strick, whether Cook or not is irrelevant. 
> They didn't bring another guy in this year because it
> was enough to get the Harter defense ACCEPTED by the
> captains.  The humiliation of Twan and Paul by the Nets
> showed that their own offense couldn't carry the team
> and will serve as the impetus for accepting a lesser
> role in initiating.
>
> Just my opinion, as Musty would write, but it seems to
> follow the pattern.  The Celts need players, but they
> needed a plan and a process to get them to a better
> style of play than we saw between 1999-2001. This is
> encouraging, because it's less player-dependant, yet we
> got this far this year without any offensive system. 
> Sure, the East will be healthier next year, but the
> Celts will be better stocked and primed to learn.
>
> I would be surprised to see Kenny moved over the summer,
> but not before the mid-season trade deadline.  Either
> way, his next contract shouldn't garner him over $4 per
> year.
>
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